[txlseries4]

Astounding stuff from this gov't. Can only imagine the totally ineffective "solutions" they propose. They don't want cities to put in bike lanes or other redesigns that remove a lane for cars, and don't want speed cameras... What's left? A bunch of fluorescent signs that everyone will ignore?

"In an email on Tuesday, Dakota Brasier, spokesperson for Ontario Transportation Minister Prabmeet Sarkaria, said the province will take steps later this year to get rid of speed cameras.

"We are exploring alternative tools to enhance traffic safety without the use of automatic speed cameras that are nothing but a cash grab. We want to see cities take steps to remove them, otherwise we are prepared to help get rid of them when the House returns in the Fall," Brasier said."
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[junctionist]

100% this. It's an optional tax

Speed cameras are a sort of tax on inattentiveness, which is often a factor in negligent driving that results in accidents. Speed cameras aren't a panacea for safe streets--an attentive speeder can just slow down for the signs to avoid fines before speeding up again in an area they know is without cameras. However, speed cameras help catch the worst speeders who are also not paying attention to street signs or going too fast to read them.

What I don't get about Toronto's problem with speed camera vandalism is that there's a different model of camera that's available that's much less susceptible to it that no one seems to talk about. Brampton has a version that's mounted above street level. It's called the Jenoptik Vector SR.

 

[zang]

What I don't get about Toronto's problem with speed camera vandalism is that there's a different model of camera that's available that's much less susceptible to it that no one seems to talk about. Brampton has a version that's mounted above street level. It's called the Jenoptik Vector SR.

Toronto’s are under contract and repairs are part of that contract. So why switch to something different when you don’t have to pay for the repairs due to vandalism?

I mean, it’s dumb, but I get it.

 

[wopchop]

Toronto’s are under contract and repairs are part of that contract. So why switch to something different when you don’t have to pay for the repairs due to vandalism?

I mean, it’s dumb, but I get it.

Cost is one factor. But the vandalism brings bad press, and bad press is what leads to Doug Ford yapping about stuff.

 

[guavadelic]

STOP signs seem to be a suggestion these days. I was crossing a street recently and this Karen in her Tesla Model S, rolled through the stop sign up to my kneecaps as i was crossing! I looked over at her and she sarcastically does the "come on hurry up" wave, i flipped her the bird and she rolled down the window and screamed at me lol. I guess she was in a big hurry to sit in traffic lol

On a related note, I wouldn't mind if the city banned right turns on red. Folks never stop, they just roll through and turn. Can't count how many times i've seen pedestrians almost get killed.

 

[wopchop]

On a related note, I wouldn't mind if the city banned right turns on red. Folks never stop, they just roll through and turn. Can't count how many times i've seen pedestrians almost get killed.

Pedestrians, cyclists face daily danger at intersections, reveals CAA study | CAA North & East Ontario

Have you ever had a close call while crossing the street or cycling, barely avoiding a vehicle? You're not alone. Near misses and potentially serious incidents

caaneo.ca

Serious near-misses most often involve vehicles turning right, accounting for 55 per cent of pedestrian and 50 per cent of cyclist conflicts. Left-turning cars are responsible for over a third of the incidents, affecting 34 per cent of pedestrians and 36 per cent of cyclists. Only 11 per cent of conflicts involve vehicles travelling straight. According to the City of Ottawa, 54 per cent of all fatal or major injuries in the city between 2019 and 2023 occurred at or near an intersection.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Looks like the Republicans in the USA are copying Doug Ford's desires....

Republicans in Washington are harnessing the gripes of speeding suburban drivers across the nation with a new proposal to defund the 26-year-old traffic enforcement camera program in the nation's capital and override the city's law banning right turns on red.

What else does Doug Ford have up his sleeves?

Speed, red light, stop sign, school bus stop-arm and bus priority enforcement cameras have been a longtime bugaboo of the House GOP, whose members pushed a similar provision in 2023 that failed to become law. Trump's latest intervention in the city's self-governance in the name of public safety breathed new life into the effort, say Washingtonians.

See https://usa.streetsblog.org/2025/09/10/republicans-target-d-c-traffic-cameras-and-right-on-red-ban-amid-trump-takeover

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Today at a media event, Doug Ford, in response to a Crown Royal bottler closing down Ontario plant, shifting some operations to U.S., said "A message to the CEO in France, you hurt my people, I'm gonna hurt you." and then after he literally pulled out a bottle, turned it upside down and poured it out as he said, "This is what I think about Crown Royal. That's what they could do and I think everyone else should do the same thing"

And people wonder how he stays so popular

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

Astounding stuff from this gov't. Can only imagine the totally ineffective "solutions" they propose. They don't want cities to put in bike lanes or other redesigns that remove a lane for cars, and don't want speed cameras... What's left? A bunch of fluorescent signs that everyone will ignore?

"In an email on Tuesday, Dakota Brasier, spokesperson for Ontario Transportation Minister Prabmeet Sarkaria, said the province will take steps later this year to get rid of speed cameras.

"We are exploring alternative tools to enhance traffic safety without the use of automatic speed cameras that are nothing but a cash grab. We want to see cities take steps to remove them, otherwise we are prepared to help get rid of them when the House returns in the Fall," Brasier said."
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…what load of ole goat’s bullocks!

 

[zang]

…what load of ole goat’s bullocks!

Next thing you know, ticketing for failing to stop at a red or illegal parking will suddenly get labelled a "cash grab" and a tacit green light will be given to drivers.