Kyle Campbell
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It's a very gradual opening plan. At least there's a date now, though I think it's excessively cautious
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nfitz
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Excessively? When did full scale running start? I thought trains were still terminating at the current terminus - but perhaps I missed something.
Or is January 6 just the beginning of trial-running without passengers?
Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
Jan 6th is the start of passenger service, but only on weekdays. Saturday services will start a minimum of 2 weeks after that, and full 7 day service no sooner than February. Bus service won't change until April, and until then the parallel Line 2 bus will keep running.
Line 2 has been fully shut down for four years now, so it will be nice to have it back. They completely demolished and rebuilt it. The only thing left from the old line was the small station houses for faregates they had originally built in 2018 for 4 of the old stations. They also repurposed some of the old platform shelters as bus shelters at the new Limebank terminus.
This very soft launch is based on learnings from the whole confederation line debacle, but I kind of feel the pendulum has swung way to far in the caution direction
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Kyle Campbell
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You're thinking of Line 1. Those trains are still going and terminating at Blair and Tunneys. In 2025-6, it will extend to Trim in the East. Later in 2026 or 2027, Line 1 will be interlined with the new Line 3. Line 3 will go to Bayshore, and Line 1 to Algonquin as the new western termini
nfitz
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I'll try again.
How many weeks (months?) ago did they start the trail running with full weekday service at the level it will exist on January 6?
Kyle Campbell
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Sept 28th was when that started officially, although they've been running at near that level since at least April. After the 28th, they had to achieve 99.8% on time performance
So why I feel the whole thing is excessive, is that they've been running the trains for almost 18 months now, of which 9 months have been at or near full service level volumes, and they are still going with a very slowly paced soft launch.
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Kyle Campbell
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Kyle Campbell
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Kyle Campbell
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Just a bit of info since Line 2 still crosses an active freight line, even though it's now grade separated from the VIA line.
www.octranspo.com
OC Explained: Coordinating CN Freight Trains on Line 2 | OC Transpo
www.octranspo.com
drum118
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drum118
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rdaner
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Finally! But this will be transformational in the long run!
andrewmaps
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3 seat ride from the airport. seems like a hassle. Would be nice if they could find some way to interline into the downtown tunnel - costly/perhaps impossible connection at Bayview? I imagine this will become a pinchpoint with people transfering at Bayview. Though glad all this investment is happening for Ottawa. Hope the rollout is smoother than phase 1...
Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
The rail sets are incompatible with line 1, they're too wide, too tall to clear the cantenary, and the platforms (while still low) are higher on line 2. I suppose a future dream might extend Line 2 into downtown with a second tunnel under Wellington or something like that, but for now Bayview will be Ottawa's Bloor-Yonge or perhaps more like Berri-UQAM
drum118
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Some places in NA have a 2 seat ride while in Europe it can be 1-3 depending where the rider is coming from, but mainly 1-2. Many Europe airports are service by Intercity rail that require travelers to use transit and then transfer to rail. Denver has transit rail to its airport
Edinburgh, Barcelona, Zurich, Hamburg, Nice, Paris, London, Copenhagen that I have been to had regular transit service to the airport by rail from the city center. The old Berlin airport had rail with a long walk from the station to the airport. A few others places had transit buses, or required a higher fare to get to the airport like NA..
Don't see Line 2 been extended to the downtown, but never know.