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AlvinofDiaspar
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lenaitch
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You're just using the 'right' websites to explain it all to you - and they will no doubt be happy to point you down the right path.
What surprises me is why the cabin crew didn't determine that they had lost control and the flight crew didn't either turn around or divert on the grounds of flight safety.Can't beat this one:
Sunwing cancels return trip to Quebec following maskless influencer plane party; potential fines of up to $5,000
Sunwing Airlines has cancelled the return flight for a group of Quebecers who partied maskless on a chartered flight from Montreal to Cancun on Dec. 30.montreal.ctvnews.ca
Maskless influenza is about as appealing as it sounds. And the instigator:
AoD
Videodrome
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140M rapid tests, enough pediatric COVID-19 doses for all second shots coming this month: feds
By the end of the month, there will be enough pediatric COVID-19 doses in Canada for all eligible children, and 140 million additional rapid tests will be delivered to provinces and territories, the federal government announced Wednesday.
I would say this is good news.
picard102
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It's a chartered flight, I would imagine lots happens that doesn't make it into the media on a regular basis.
In theory, yes. But there are still an awful lot (like 20 million) rapid tests provided to Ontario that remain unaccounted for. Probably expired by now.140M rapid tests, enough pediatric COVID-19 doses for all second shots coming this month: feds
By the end of the month, there will be enough pediatric COVID-19 doses in Canada for all eligible children, and 140 million additional rapid tests will be delivered to provinces and territories, the federal government announced Wednesday.www.ctvnews.ca
I would say this is good news.
Johnny Au
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Funny, given that the "Do your own research" crowd only do research on "designated" websites.
There's a joke about a QAnon member who was told to do his own research and he learned that QAnon is a dangerous cult and left QAnon for good. The former QAnon member then tells others about the importance of proper critical thinking.
AlvinofDiaspar
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Maybe they figured there are only 10 of them vs a plane full of rowdy flyers. Perhaps venting the cabin and lowering the 02 "a bit" would help calm these flyers?
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tiffer24
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lenaitch
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No doubt, but safety rules are the same.
tiffer24
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Toronto child, under the age of five, dies of COVID.
Toronto Public Health confirmed Thursday that a child under the age of four has died with COVID-19. The public health agency said it can't release more details due to privacy rules, but offered its condolences to the child's family.
The tragedy comes as Ontario doctors again warn pregnant people to get vaccinated so their newborns have some degree of immunity.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-confirms-child-dies-with-covid-19-1.6305792
Toronto Public Health confirmed Thursday that a child under the age of four has died with COVID-19. The public health agency said it can't release more details due to privacy rules, but offered its condolences to the child's family.
The tragedy comes as Ontario doctors again warn pregnant people to get vaccinated so their newborns have some degree of immunity.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-confirms-child-dies-with-covid-19-1.6305792
Bayer
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The Journal de Montréal reports at least one of those passengers was able to return on an Air Canada flight (and is an absolute jerk as can be expected). https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...un-avion-des-influenceurs-arrivent-a-montreal
APTA-2048
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2,279 people hospitalized with COVID and 319 in ICU. Bit of a jump in numbers over the past couple of days.
zang
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What a cluster-f the MTCC vax clinic has become.
We took my daughter to get her 2nd dose (with informed consent to get it 18 days early) last night. When she got her first shot there on November 26th, it was efficient and quick. The lineup was maybe 5-6 people ahead of us. It was all on the first floor and we were in and out of there in less than 25 minutes (including a 15 minute reaction wait).
Pfizer's schedule is still only 30 days in the 5-11 age group, but here we've pushed it to 60 days to avoid Peri- and Myocarditis in kids (which, is still remarkably rare and almost entirely affects just boys). Early with Informed consent means in order to get an appointment, it needs to be made through a phonecall to the government. Which means, if you live in central toronto, the only place they'll make appointments for you is the MTCC.
Last night the MTCC was a mess.
First off, all vaccinations have been moved downstairs. We got there at 6:50 for a 7:10 appointment. There are two lines set up outside. One for appointments in the first half of the hour, and one for the second half of the hour. Both were empty. There were four staff outside just talking, and we were told to go in even being 20 minutes early. 1st step checkin was quick and relatively line-free. Good; so far it looked like a repeat of November 26th.
We get downstairs to a huge, winding lineup, at least half of which was obscured from view, hiding how long a wait there truly was.
We were put in a line with probably 500-600 other people, in a room with seemingly no airflow. Despite the room and ability to keep bends in the line distanced, they weren't and they were often side by side. At least two people near to us were regularly removing their masks to eat or drink.
I get the staff absences (Omicron), so I'm not going to blame them for only having 5 of 14 2nd stage check-ins and 20 or so of the 50+ injection stations manned. But it seems like no care was made to adapt for that level of bottlenecking.
Worse yet, they seemed to be pulling Moderna shots out of the line earlier, so those who weren't all Karen about it in the 30+ age group were spared about 10 minutes extra waiting (not sure how injecting Moderna is in any way different than injecting Pfizer).
We spent an hour and a half there. We had more exposure to strangers in that time than what is probably the entirety of the past six months (pre-Omicron!). Thankfully, we're boosted and we were double-masked with (legit) KN95s with a cloth mask overtop, but our assumption is that we were exposed to Covid, waiting to get our daughter a second dose. How f-ed up is that?! How many people are now going to get Covid for "doing the right thing"?
They could've easily kept the majority of the line outside (plenty of room on the sidewalk), or wound the line through conference rooms (rather than having queuers repeatedly passing others). At times, all 5 of the 2nd-stage check-in station attendants were doing absolutely nothing staring at their phones while the line stopped. We didn't see the 5th station attendant intake a single person in the 25 minutes we could see him.
Who the hell is running this show now? Certainly not people with any sense of good epidemiology practice. It was worse than FanExpo lineups (in the same damn location, even). We walked 4km each way to avoid subway-levels of exposure, only to hit the motherlode of irresponsibility.
We took my daughter to get her 2nd dose (with informed consent to get it 18 days early) last night. When she got her first shot there on November 26th, it was efficient and quick. The lineup was maybe 5-6 people ahead of us. It was all on the first floor and we were in and out of there in less than 25 minutes (including a 15 minute reaction wait).
Pfizer's schedule is still only 30 days in the 5-11 age group, but here we've pushed it to 60 days to avoid Peri- and Myocarditis in kids (which, is still remarkably rare and almost entirely affects just boys). Early with Informed consent means in order to get an appointment, it needs to be made through a phonecall to the government. Which means, if you live in central toronto, the only place they'll make appointments for you is the MTCC.
Last night the MTCC was a mess.
First off, all vaccinations have been moved downstairs. We got there at 6:50 for a 7:10 appointment. There are two lines set up outside. One for appointments in the first half of the hour, and one for the second half of the hour. Both were empty. There were four staff outside just talking, and we were told to go in even being 20 minutes early. 1st step checkin was quick and relatively line-free. Good; so far it looked like a repeat of November 26th.
We get downstairs to a huge, winding lineup, at least half of which was obscured from view, hiding how long a wait there truly was.
We were put in a line with probably 500-600 other people, in a room with seemingly no airflow. Despite the room and ability to keep bends in the line distanced, they weren't and they were often side by side. At least two people near to us were regularly removing their masks to eat or drink.
I get the staff absences (Omicron), so I'm not going to blame them for only having 5 of 14 2nd stage check-ins and 20 or so of the 50+ injection stations manned. But it seems like no care was made to adapt for that level of bottlenecking.
Worse yet, they seemed to be pulling Moderna shots out of the line earlier, so those who weren't all Karen about it in the 30+ age group were spared about 10 minutes extra waiting (not sure how injecting Moderna is in any way different than injecting Pfizer).
We spent an hour and a half there. We had more exposure to strangers in that time than what is probably the entirety of the past six months (pre-Omicron!). Thankfully, we're boosted and we were double-masked with (legit) KN95s with a cloth mask overtop, but our assumption is that we were exposed to Covid, waiting to get our daughter a second dose. How f-ed up is that?! How many people are now going to get Covid for "doing the right thing"?
They could've easily kept the majority of the line outside (plenty of room on the sidewalk), or wound the line through conference rooms (rather than having queuers repeatedly passing others). At times, all 5 of the 2nd-stage check-in station attendants were doing absolutely nothing staring at their phones while the line stopped. We didn't see the 5th station attendant intake a single person in the 25 minutes we could see him.
Who the hell is running this show now? Certainly not people with any sense of good epidemiology practice. It was worse than FanExpo lineups (in the same damn location, even). We walked 4km each way to avoid subway-levels of exposure, only to hit the motherlode of irresponsibility.
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