Towered
Superstar
As a culture famous for obedience and compliance to authority, it's quite perplexing really.
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AlvinofDiaspar
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Towered
Superstar
Paywall.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Odd, I didn't get paywalled from the article - anyways, the gist is confluence of populist parties, a rational government messaging antivax forces to appeal to emotion, etc.
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Richard White
Senior Member
Looks like we MAY break 1200 cases tomorrow.
Richard White
Senior Member
CBC is reporting 1290 new cases today.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Damn, we're getting close to needing another shut down. My kids are in residence at university and I've been pleased that all their classes have been in person. My cousin is at UofT Scarboro and haven't been in a class yet, might as well get your degree from https://www.athabascau.ca/
DSCToronto
Superstar
Though I realise that hospitalisations follow infections, it is worth noting that the number of people in hospital (and in ICU) is actually falling (slightly) despite the fact that the number of infections is rising. See: https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations#activeAndHospitalized
Richard White
Senior Member
I was hoping my ACMO exams would be canceled next week. No such luck.
Bayer
Senior Member
It's annoying. Started using Instacart again today. Last time I went shopping in the Manulife Centre, within 15 minutes I saw 5 or 6 maskless people (including a disturbed man asking himself at the top of his lungs: "WHY ARE YOU STILL COMING HERE!?" I was wondering the same thing), not counting those who sit outside the Pilot coffee shop. Eataly is packed again, and nobody cares about distancing at all any longer. That's fine if the figures justify it, but they sure don't at the moment.
DirectionNorth
Senior Member
People are tied of lockdown ... I don't blame them. I don't visit restaurants and keep distance, but you can't restrict indefinitely, because we're social creatures.
picard102
Senior Member
If they're vaccinated then I don't see what the issue is.
Either you believe vaccines work and get back to living your life, or you don't and will be under self isolation for the rest of your life.
Hospital admissions are well below what they were under the last two lockdowns peak, and unless we were lied too, it was always about preventing hospitals from breaking down. Not getting to zero cases (an impossibility)
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Look at Europe (particularly parts of Europe with comparable levels of vaccination to us) - plus the Science Table already laid out the projected pressure on ICU under the current course (with and without Omicron). Nothing to say that we need to get back to full lockdown - but it doesn't quite mean business as normal either - and it most certainly doesn't mean you can ditch the masks and have large congregated activities often without consequence.
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Bayer
Senior Member
Eataly in particular is a mixed environment of restaurants and market where masked and unmasked people share the same air in close proximity; people invariably end up outside of the restaurant area without masks, into the market area where people can go without proof of vaccination. Just like patrons elsewhere in Manulife show a proof of vaccination to sit in the mall next to a coffee shop and an Italian restaurant, among passersby, some of whom have no mask and don't require a proof of vaccination. I consider that situation to be a bit of a loophole in the public health measures.
Bayer
Senior Member
I don't blame people for wanting to socialize. But being "tired" is just not a valid reason. If another lockdown is needed in the future, then it should happen. Nature doesn't care about our COVID fatigue.