ShonTron
Moderator
Ford (neither of them) never proposed such a crazy idea, it's Adma resurrecting a thought from another thread.
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hawc
Senior Member
Hahahahahaha... OMG are you actually comparing the vehicle tax to transit fares. Are you proposing that transit users shouldn't have to pay to ride the TTC?!?! Are you seriously calling paying a fare a tax?! You take the cake.
Yup transit should be free for everyone. And gas and insurance and maintenance and cars should be free for motorists. And anyone who wants a bicycle shouldn't have to pay for that either. And food should be free because heck we need that too. And housing...
Torontovibe
Senior Member
Can't you tell when you're just being baited? Let the trolls play their games.
adma
Superstar
Not Ford. Hawc. Ask what the heck is wrong with *him*.
(Oh, and as hawc'll tell you, it isn't bad as it looks. F'rinstance, he intends to have the highway buried along Parkside. Yeah, cue the rolling-eye smiley for that one...)
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Red October
Senior Member
Rob won the election with less than 50%, which means people opposed to him are in fact NOT the minority. Learn what minority means.
This seems to be the only argument of Fraud Nation as of late, he won the election so your argument is invalid.. "He broke his promises and cut services" "YA??? WELL HE WUN TEH ELECSHUN, DEEL WITH IT!!!"
Watching the last of Fraud Nation grasping for straws after the "smarter" (I say that in quotation marks because they voted for Fraud in the first place) ones turned on him after seeing his true side is very amusing.
He's going to be run out with torches and pitchforks and people will miss the successful progressive city that existed under Miller.
hawc
Senior Member
The fun thing is Ford never would have won if Miller hadn't blown things so badly. The hate for Miller is what got Ford in. And now he's cleaning things up. 3 more years of Ford. So good.
nfitz
Superstar
I'm simply pointing out that car drivers use a lot of city services relating to city roads, yet don't pay one cent of the cost, compared to an equivalent household that doen't have a car.
Uh ... no - why would you ask that. Are you judging a squirrel grooming competition in New Guinea?
No ... the same way no one in their right mind would call a road toll a tax.
Why would you suggest something like that? That's a dumb suggestion.
Ford is clearly the worst mayor in the history of Toronto - well, the last 80 years at least. He'll never achieve the success of a great leader like David Miller. Or even achieve the success of a really bad leader like Mel Lastman.
Perhaps David Miller should be the next mayor of Toronto.
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freshcutgrass
Senior Member
Fees, fares, taxes...what you call the money you give the municipal government to supply you with a public service is all just semantics. Fees and fares are just upfront user-fees. Public roads and public transit are just public services provided by the municipal government.
And for the record, if we were to run things in a common sense manner, yes...there would be no upfront user-fee to use public transit....the entire cost of operating should come 100% from general taxes. And private vehicle owners should have to pay up-front user fees to use the roads.
The logic being that we are trying to promote more public transit use, and trying to discourage private vehicles on public roads. So why do we hinder public transit use by charging a user fee and promote private car use by not charging one?