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The City's approach to Downtown attraction is "We need people to live and work in the Downtown core, but not me or anyone else who works for the city. It's gross there."

A phased approach is the right approach.

It's an absolutely asinine approach the City has taken. The City as an employer is a huge employer and reason for the hollowing out of downtown. Furthermore, because of the City's insane compensation structure and other associated benefits, it makes employee attraction less successful in the private space in Edmonton. The City is not a reasonable competitor for employees.
 
I think this is a good summary of Knack's somewhat disappointing city address.

Obviously, a tough crowd, but it is fair to say that talking about planning is not going to win over the business, results oriented crowd that has long been frustrated by a city that does not seem to respond well or quickly to the problems and challenges faced.
 
Obviously, a tough crowd, but it is fair to say that talking about planning is not going to win over the business, results oriented crowd that has long been frustrated by a city that does not seem to respond well or quickly to the problems and challenges faced.
It’s also a crowd that was banking on Cartmell to win, and probably thought it was going to happen until reality caught up with them come election day.
 
Knack is a dumb ass and dumber by the day.
do you honestly thing and extra 2500 people, 2 days a week, will solve DT’s problems. Cause if ya do, Ill show ya dumb.

We need people living downtown and Id sooner the city spend the 5 mill it will cost to lease space on building an apartment building for 500 people who will live dt 365.

@IanO or anyone else in development, How many units could get built with a public injection of 5 mill do you figure?
 
^ You are so very wrong. The return to work full time has, in fact, been good for business, for foot traffic, for general business, more transit use. Everything the city wants. But the city chooses not to lead. How utterly shameful.

And if there's no need to work DT, then what's the point of living DT?

By your logic, all the office towers should shutter, since people can work from home. That would be great for DT, right?
 
It’s also a crowd that was banking on Cartmell to win, and probably thought it was going to happen until reality caught up with them come election day.
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^ You are so very wrong. The return to work full time has, in fact, been good for business, for foot traffic, for general business, more transit use. Everything the city wants. But the city chooses not to lead. How utterly shameful.

And if there's no need to work DT, then what's the point of living DT?

By your logic, all the office towers should shutter, since people can work from home. That would be great for DT, right?

What are those numbers? hmmm

So again the city represents 2500 people 2x a week. according to our mayor.
The Province represented 12,500 people a day. according to reporting

The city, and its union,
have negotiated and agreed upon a working arrangement that includes hybrid.

Isnt it entirely possible these two entities have different operational needs? Shouldnt we have smaller gov’t and more local control?

Do you want me to believe that the province is here to “save” us and it knows who and what policy is a “winner” or “looser”?

We need people living downtown not performative office drama.

Nowhere does my logic conclude at the point of every office tower closing because 2500 workers are absent from the core 2 times a week. You sound crazy.
 
AGAIN, what's the point of living DT, if there's no need to work DT? your desire to have people live DT is 'performative drama'

you're clearly a city employee. BTW, the union agreement has a recall clause in it.
 
AGAIN, what's the point of living DT, if there's no need to work DT? your desire to have people live DT is 'performative drama'

you're clearly a city employee. BTW, the union agreement has a recall clause in it.
um dude.

You realized that if returning to work only brings in 2500 people 2x a week. They are in the core the other 3x.

Further

There is more than one employer downtown yes? Jobs are created in places people live, ya?

You seem really animated over nothing cause people have been living far away from
jobs for some 75 years now. The trend doesnt look like its stopping super soon.
 
i just like proving you wrong, haha

'There is more than one employer down town yes? Jobs are created in places people live, ya?'

but by your logic, why should they even be in the core. if the city is not willing to lead by example, then why should any other entity? it's utterly hypocritical.
 
i just like proving you wrong, haha

'There is more than one employer down town yes? Jobs are created in places people live, ya?'

but by your logic, why should they even be in the core. if the city is not willing to lead by example, then why should any other entity? it's utterly hypocritical.
I dont think we are having the same conversation friend, and you definitely have not “proved me wrong”. whatever that means to you.
 
um dude.

You realized that if returning to work only brings in 2500 people 2x a week. They are in the core the other 3x.

Further

There is more than one employer downtown yes? Jobs are created in places people live, ya?

You seem really animated over nothing cause people have been living far away from
jobs for some 75 years now. The trend doesnt look like its stopping super soon.
Not to stick up for him but i have pretty good anecdotes that they are not in consistently 3 days a week, not even close.
 

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