[MiExpress]

June 4

Maureen Cosyn Heath is the new Transit Manager who first day was on Monday.

As of July 1st, 2025, anyone 65 or older will be able to ride the transit system free in place of the $1 fare.

The last of the 2300 and 2400 buses are in service with 0723, 0810, 0903 and 0910 still on the road as white. They will be gone or should be gone this month as they are pass their 15 year life cycle. Only a small amount of blue express buses still to be painted orange and they should be done this month.

Now as to when the 80 2500 series buses will arrive, only NFI knows. The artic will be diesel since NFI not producing hybrid for them at this time.

What is supposed to be replaced by the 2500s?

It does not appear any buses have been officially ordered, despite budget approval being given to begin the procurement process (which is not the same as actually procuring the buses). No bus orders have been listed in the city's monthly purchasing reports and during budget committee meetings for the 2025 budget, staff indicated that they were moving the next bus procurement to 2026 delivery to help relieve some financial pressures from the capital budget.

 

[doady]

Yay, free fares. Exactly what Mississauga's overcrowded and underfunded transit system needed.

 

[Northern Light]

The next round of Miway service changes are out (June 30th)............the main one seems to be changes to Ogden:

Service changes start on Monday, June 30

www.mississauga.ca

 

[ShonTron]

It worked out pretty good, as it turns out. Route 5 has a faster and more direct permanent routing. Route 31 provides new service into Dixie GO Station.

 

[Sauga89]

It worked out pretty good, as it turns out. Route 5 has a faster and more direct permanent routing. Route 31 provides new service into Dixie GO Station.

I wonder if they'll consider removing Dixie Outlet Mall from the route of the 4 now. The 31 will now be the third bus to run north on that section of Dixie.

 

[drum118]

I wonder if they'll consider removing Dixie Outlet Mall from the route of the 4 now. The 31 will now be the third bus to run north on that section of Dixie.

No as the 4 service Sherway Mall and drops riders off at Dixie Mall

 

[doady]

Three routes does seem excessive.. I guess MiWay wanted faster connection to the TTC for route 5? Maybe one day there will be a Dixie Express north from Dixie GO to balance things out and reduce the amount of buses south of Dixie GO. Otherwise the 31 seems like a tremendous waste of resources.

31 Ogden frequencies:

Weekday peak: every 20 minutes
Weekday off-peak: every 30 minutes

39 Britannia frequencies:

Weekday peak: every 19 minutes (with articulated buses)
Weekday off-peak: every 32 minutes (with articulated buses)

 

[ShonTron]

Route 31 probably has a 30-minute round trip, including driver breaks, as it’s not a long route. Unless you interline it, 30 minutes is going to be your minimum frequency anyway. The 20-minute peak frequency is probably there to deal with rush hour congestion around the QEW by putting a second bus on and going to a 40 minute round trip.

So that’s probably the thinking. In the short-to-medium term, I could see 31 rerouted to serve Lakeview as well.

 

[Sauga89]

Otherwise the 31 seems like a tremendous waste of resources.

I don't have an issue with the 31. I think it's intended to serve the Lakeview Village and Dixie Outlet Mall developments when they open, and perhaps any developments around Dixie GO as well. The latest Dixie traffic projections from Peel region forecast much heavier car traffic on Ogden and Haig in the coming years - 20 times the traffic seen today. Those developments will need buses. It's the 4 which I think needs improving somehow.

 

[doady]

I don't have an issue with the 31. I think it's intended to serve the Lakeview Village and Dixie Outlet Mall developments when they open, and perhaps any developments around Dixie GO as well. The latest Dixie traffic projections from Peel region forecast much heavier car traffic on Ogden and Haig in the coming years - 20 times the traffic seen today. Those developments will need buses. It's the 4 which I think needs improving somehow.

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The problem with this 31 is not the Lakeview to Dixie Mall section, it's the Dixie Mall to Dixie GO section, overlapping with route 5 along Dixie Road. The 5 and 31 also overlap along Lakeshore east of Dixie Road. They will use three buses for route 31, but less than half of the route will provide service not already covered by the existing route 5. To make things worse, this is by far the least busy portion of route 5.

They would have more balanced service along the Dixie corridor if they added another route north of Dixie GO, maybe to Bramalea GO, for example:

South of Dixie GO (peak):
5 Dixie: 30 minutes
31 Ogden: 20 minutes

North of Dixie GO (peak):
5 Dixie: 30 minutes
75 Dixie: 15 minutes

 

[Northern Light]

Miway Service Changes for Sept 1st are now posted.

Service changes start on Monday, September 1

www.mississauga.ca

I'll note a couple but leave the deep dive to someone else.

That's the named stuff other than school specials and detours......

Except for this:

 

[MiExpress]

Miway Service Changes for Sept 1st are now posted.

The 110's weekend service is a restoration of service that was cancelled when the COVID pandemic began. It is not really "new" service in that sense, as the 110 had weekend service when it was launched back in September 2007.

It's a pretty quiet service change. October is supposed to being the shortening of route 39 and introduction of route 50 covering the Lisgar portion of route 39. However the proposed change has generated some complaints about the loss of established service (in other words, people used to the one seat ride of the 39) and the local councillor has her thumb on the scale, suggesting at a council meeting the change shoudn't happen and sending out surveys to residents about the change. I hope the change happens, because the 39 really needs to be shortened and have more frequent service 7 days a week given its current ridership profile.

I think the 2026 budget might be one with fewer net new service hours for transit. While ridership is higher than pre COVID, there is clearly a drop off in ridership that started in the second half of 2024 that can be attributed to reductions and restrictions around international students. Leisure travel on evenings/weekends also seems to be down. The city is going to have a challenging budget year and after 2 years of 7-9% annual property tax increases there is some pushback forming and there will be political pressure to deliver a budget with a much lower tax increase in 2026. Even though a lot of it can be attributed to regional services and the police, the fact is the city budget is far easier to implement spending limitations and/or cuts.

 

[drum118]

The 110's weekend service is a restoration of service that was cancelled when the COVID pandemic began. It is not really "new" service in that sense, as the 110 had weekend service when it was launched back in September 2007.

It's a pretty quiet service change. October is supposed to being the shortening of route 39 and introduction of route 50 covering the Lisgar portion of route 39. However the proposed change has generated some complaints about the loss of established service (in other words, people used to the one seat ride of the 39) and the local councillor has her thumb on the scale, suggesting at a council meeting the change shoudn't happen and sending out surveys to residents about the change. I hope the change happens, because the 39 really needs to be shortened and have more frequent service 7 days a week given its current ridership profile.

I think the 2026 budget might be one with fewer net new service hours for transit. While ridership is higher than pre COVID, there is clearly a drop off in ridership that started in the second half of 2024 that can be attributed to reductions and restrictions around international students. Leisure travel on evenings/weekends also seems to be down. The city is going to have a challenging budget year and after 2 years of 7-9% annual property tax increases there is some pushback forming and there will be political pressure to deliver a budget with a much lower tax increase in 2026. Even though a lot of it can be attributed to regional services and the police, the fact is the city budget is far easier to implement spending limitations and/or cuts.

Don't forget 2026 is election year where the budget is cut to allow councilors to get reelected. They pushed this year bus replacement cost to 2026 and most likely the 2026 buses to be replace move to 2027. Maybe the hydrogen buses as well. Have seen only 2 hydrogen buses this year.

Quality of service still fall below what it should be for the city as a whole regardless if there is a decline of International students. Getting from one location to another location fast and easy within the city has been a major issue for decades. Service for 110 south of UTM will remain as it is today.

Route 39 is one of those routes that needs 7 days service and why should it be cut up when the 26 is longer than it? Route 2 has gone back to the old days of service and all the service changes suck period. I had a looked at my route service and it has been butcher to the point you need to check the schedule every time you want to use it as as the headway is all over the place between each bus. Same apply to other routes and basely saying you need a car to get around the city these days or use taxis and Uber that hasn't change in over 30 years.

Since the Hurontario Line will not see service until 2028 and 4 years late, cannot relocate buses from 2, 17 and 103 as planned in 2024 and where do you find the buses to offer better service when there is no room to add expansion buses??

 

[JJTheJetPln]

Don't forget 2026 is election year where the budget is cut to allow councilors to get reelected. They pushed this year bus replacement cost to 2026 and most likely the 2026 buses to be replace move to 2027. Maybe the hydrogen buses as well. Have seen only 2 hydrogen buses this year.

What's going on with those hydrogen buses? I'm curious about how they're fueled. Does one of the bus depots have a hydrogen tank on site, or do they have a truck come to the depot to refuel them at the end of the day?

 

[drum118]

What's going on with those hydrogen buses? I'm curious about how they're fueled. Does one of the bus depots have a hydrogen tank on site, or do they have a truck come to the depot to refuel them at the end of the day?

They have been pushed to 2026 for capital cost reason like the replacement buses. They will be store at the Malton garage that will have a fuel system built there for them, I saw one of 2 hydrogen bus in Columbia SC and one out of 3 in Rochester this year. This is supposed to delay the need for a 3rd garage and out fitted it for ebuses. The only option to fuel the buses if the furling wasn't built on site was to do a 15 minute trip to the airport each way to be fuel. None of the large systems looking at hydrogen buses at this time that I am aware of at this time.

Unless the Fed's kick in money to built that 3rd garage, it will remain on the books like it has since 2011 and no way to add more buses to the fleet.

Most systems are moving to ebuses, hybrid or CNG with less than 100 hydrogen buses on the road or plan for NA at this time. A number of systems have gone back to clean diesel or haven't looked at others buses.

Look at Guelph system that only been ordering ebuses since 2023-2025 with 16 of them out of the 91 buses currently in the fleet. Then there is Brampton who is building their 3rd garage that will house over 100 ebuses along with the 10 in the fleet now Calgary has 100 Nova Bus ebuses schedule for 2027-28