archited
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Terrible layouts as anticipated.
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Markyeg
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The four side units across from the stairs that are long and skinny have a terrible layout but the rest of the floor plans aren’t that bad.
Glenco
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Lots of elevators which makes it unique for residential
archited
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As a "foodie" who enjoys cooking -- the linear kitchens in every unit are atrocious especially where cooktops are adjacent to entry doors. As mentioned previously in other layouts for other buildings a 4-seater dining table just seems to be plunked in the let's-fill-up-this-space location regardless of path-of-travel. So sad that this legacy building will be abused and so close to buildings that are more promising in terms of prospects (Qualico).
itom987
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I don't understand the obsession with having 2 bathrooms.
archited
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^ It's the ensuite-so-sweet obsession.
policyenthusiast
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Sometimes the Taco Bell date night makes it a must-have.
archited
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I would like to know how many people prefer tubs over showers (full disclosure-- I love showers; I don't like wallowing in the same water that my ass is parked in). There are ways to make these small units very space efficient -- not evident here. Are any of the floors accessible for wheelchairs?
mcr
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Anyone with a kid or a dog will want the tub, that's for sure. I have neither, but I like the norm in a 2-bath place these days where 1 is a tub combo and 1 is just a shower. The tub is very handy for cleaning bigger items (like hockey gear for me). In a 1 bath, I would think the tub is the way to go for versatility in rental.
kcantor
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Nobody asked me but this is an absolutely terrible configuration that fills the floor with terribly configured suites.
For starters, there are way too many suites that are way too small - it's as if the direction was to maximize the number of units instead of maximizing their liveability and saleability/income.
The floor works much better with larger suites properly laid out than what they show here - likely 12 rather than 16. While that caters to the mid/upper range in the market, it also provides better ratios for parking per suite etc. Furthermore, it reduces the number of kitchens and bathrooms and suite entry doors and demising walls etc. so it should reduce construction costs.
Why would anyone back all of the bathroom plumbing fixtures against the corridor walls instead of ensuring that most of them are back to back which minimizes both construction costs and noise transmission?
For residential use, 4 elevators is likely more than adequate. Why not decommission one bank entirely rather than having to upgrade and maintain them and reclaim the shaft for storage lockers on each floor?
Eliminating that bank of three elevators would also allow access to the mechanical/service spaces on the floor to be accessed other than through the stairwells (which is likely an operational as well as a code-compliant pain in the a$$).
Why recess the full width of the suites facing the elevators instead of simply recessing the suite entry doors in an alcove that would generate some visual interest with proper lighting etc.?
Who in their right mind would place a tub/shower on a glazed exterior wall in a building where you have perimeter heat?
Why woiuld you place a bedroom - where you want to be able to have things dark - on a glazed corner instead of your living space?
Why in a two-bedroom unit would you make the master bedroom the smaller of the two?
Why would you lay out a third of your one-bedroom units such that the bedrooms have no window?
This is clearly a case, from a design perspective, where "less is both more and better"...
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David A
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I suppose if you are in it for the short run, squeeze in as many units as possible and don't put the time and money into designing a good layout.
However, 80% to 90% of the time the rental market is not booming and tenants will be more discerning about where they choose to live so such lack of thought or effort will not pay off in the long run.
However, 80% to 90% of the time the rental market is not booming and tenants will be more discerning about where they choose to live so such lack of thought or effort will not pay off in the long run.
kcantor
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This is a $h!tty plan even for someone in it for the short run. Anyone in it just for the short run should be particularly interested in minimizing construction costs (i.e. reduce the number of units by 25% and reduce the number and cost of bathrooms and kitchens and suite entries and demising walls and washers and dryers etc. by 25% as well (most of what they're going to be "replaced with" is open space/volume which has nominal if any cost associated with it as flooring and ceilings and lighting etc. need to be finished either way).
Putting the time and money into designing a good layout will also shorten leaseup times and achieve maximum revenues in the shortest time which actually facilitates an earlier exit at a higher price as potential purchasers will have less reason to discount for poor quality and higher turnover...
itom987
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My place has a full service bathroom and another one that consists of just a sink and toilet. That's all you need.