[sixrings]

Walmart is not going anywhere as it is a major anchor for the mall and draws in 10 of 1,000's of shoppers to it and the mall itself monthly.

Why would Sq One complete with Sherway when it is the 2nd largest mall in Canada and up scale stores have fail to complete with Sherway or Yorkdale in the first place??

Moving Walmart to HBC place will be lager than Walmart needs and it will have to be on Sq One dime. There is another example of upscale store failing, but a lot has to do with management.

I question how many Walmart shoppers actually spend in the rest of the mall.

It wasn’t long ago that square one would not re up leases with stores they thought wasn’t helpful to the brand of the mall. The miss toys toys toys. There were other casualties. Anyways the more upscale the mall is the higher end tenants there are the more the mall can charge per square feet. The problem is that the Holtz side of the mall has really done poorly. Things like the keg choosing a location outside of the mall hasn’t helped either.

Could I lastly suggest that the Holtz crowd is super snobby. Perhaps the Walmart and dollarama shoppers brings in people that the Holtz people avoids. So it’s a chicken and egg situation if this mall could ever become upscale. We may not know until the Walmart is gone.

Again you have to also remind me why you are on one side an advocate for shrinking the mall and street grids but at the same time a defender of keeping places like Walmart open.

 

[Dan416]

I think the most logical thing is for the "City Centre Dr" easterly extension to line up with Absolute Avenue since there's already curb cuts in place there and it looks like they've always intended a road to be there on the west side.

For the City Centre Dr southerly extension, I'd align it with Sussex Gate, even if you can never drive from one to the other.

For Square One Drive, yes it's been planned to reach Rathburn for a long time but on the western side. On this side, I would just end it at Shipp Drive.

 

[sixrings]

I think the most logical thing is for the "City Centre Dr" easterly extension to line up with Absolute Avenue since there's already curb cuts in place there and it looks like they've always intended a road to be there on the west side.

For the City Centre Dr southerly extension, I'd align it with Sussex Gate, even if you can never drive from one to the other.

For Square One Drive, yes it's been planned to reach Rathburn for a long time but on the western side. On this side, I would just end it at Shipp Drive.

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Hey neighbour. You literally made my exact same map. Anyways I obviously “like” the way you think.

 

[Dan416]

Hey neighbour. You literally made my exact same map. Anyways I obviously “like” the way you think.

Not quite. You didn't align the extensions with Absolute Ave. and Sussex Gate. Maybe that was your intent, but the picture showed a jog.

 

[sixrings]

Not quite. You didn't align the extensions with Absolute Ave. and Sussex Gate. Maybe that was your intent, but the picture showed a jog.

That was my intent. Your map is better. Congrats.

 

[drum118]

I question how many Walmart shoppers actually spend in the rest of the mall.

It wasn’t long ago that square one would not re up leases with stores they thought wasn’t helpful to the brand of the mall. The miss toys toys toys. There were other casualties. Anyways the more upscale the mall is the higher end tenants there are the more the mall can charge per square feet. The problem is that the Holtz side of the mall has really done poorly. Things like the keg choosing a location outside of the mall hasn’t helped either.

Could I lastly suggest that the Holtz crowd is super snobby. Perhaps the Walmart and dollarama shoppers brings in people that the Holtz people avoids. So it’s a chicken and egg situation if this mall could ever become upscale. We may not know until the Walmart is gone.

Again you have to also remind me why you are on one side an advocate for shrinking the mall and street grids but at the same time a defender of keeping places like Walmart open.

I do not call for the skinning of the mall square foot or store size, but condense it into a small foot print by going up in height.

When OMERS bought the mall, it was under expansion and stop construction on it for a year. Everything being built was gutted and revised west of the the existing mall staring with that wide open space. All that west extension was done poorly that it has had a large turn over with the old movie theater still boarded up to the point it needs to be raze. Holtz and the south extension is poorly design with vacant stores and turn over.

The Food District has seen a high turnover since it was converted from Target.

Cost per square foot has been high since the 80's for stores as well a percentage of sales and why chains come and go. How long has the Bulk Barn been in Sq One that saw it vacate the mall at the end of 2023?

Why did Walmart spend over $20 million gutting the existing store and remodeling it the last 18 months??

I have done some designing of the existing land and could put 1/4 of Mississauga in that area with streets built for people including green space along with all year around events with no surface parking. This included adding more retail to the area that doesn't exist today. Schools from k-12 would be included with a community centre, but my vision for the area.

 

[sixrings]

I do not call for the skinning of the mall square foot or store size, but condense it into a small foot print by going up in height.

When OMERS bought the mall, it was under expansion and stop construction on it for a year. Everything being built was gutted and revised west of the the existing mall staring with that wide open space. All that west extension was done poorly that it has had a large turn over with the old movie theater still boarded up to the point it needs to be raze. Holtz and the south extension is poorly design with vacant stores and turn over.

The Food District has seen a high turnover since it was converted from Target.

Cost per square foot has been high since the 80's for stores as well a percentage of sales and why chains come and go. How long has the Bulk Barn been in Sq One that saw it vacate the mall at the end of 2023?

Why did Walmart spend over $20 million gutting the existing store and remodeling it the last 18 months??

I have done some designing of the existing land and could put 1/4 of Mississauga in that area with streets built for people including green space along with all year around events with no surface parking. This included adding more retail to the area that doesn't exist today. Schools from k-12 would be included with a community centre, but my vision for the area.

I’m not suggesting that Walmart doesn’t have reason to have spent such a large sum of money on renovations. But leases do end. And they have to be renewed. There could always be a time where the mall simply says we do not want to continue to lease. The end.

I understand you don’t like a lot of the extensions. The movie theatre extension to me is the worst. Perhaps if a movie theatre was actually there it wouldn’t feel so bad. But as is it’s a ghost town with very nice windows.

I also understand you don’t want to shrink the mall store by store but isn’t that the most realistic way to shrink the mall. The bay goes bankrupt. Rip that section down. There’s no reason for the movie theatre area. Rip that section down. We want to go more upscale rip the Walmart section down.