[DanielMar_Toronto]

And while not as "sidewalky" as the the East York parts across the street (as can be seen in the photo), even the corresponding postwar subdivision of Scarborough in this stretch probably has more commonality w/East York than with this particular part of North York--just streets of humble bungalows, only less "spec gridiron".

Spending a good chunk of my childhood living in the Topham Park, Clairlea always felt like an eastern extension of TP. In my previous post, I was gonna say that I’d consider the inner Toronto/outer Toronto border to continue south of VP to St. Clair, but honestly, Clairlea is in the grey. As you mentioned, not as sidewalky as Topham, it also *somewhat* lacks the grid system and can be cul de sacy, but places that I consider inner Toronto (e.g. Woodbine Gardens in East York) are like that too. Grass medians between the sidewalk and road are also more common in Clairlea than Topham Park (Very noticeable on Vic Park). On the other hand, housing here seems to be akin to much of East York in terms of overal design and development phase, and front yard setbacks of the homes and apartments on St. Clair between Pharmacy and Providance Hospital are quite low. Of course, between Vic Park and Pharmacy, St. Clair, and Taylor Creek, I’d say that gives off “inner Toronto” vibes, but even there, the lack of sidewalks on a few streets is noticeable.

 

[adma]

Spending a good chunk of my childhood living in the Topham Park, Clairlea always felt like an eastern extension of TP. In my previous post, I was gonna say that I’d consider the inner Toronto/outer Toronto border to continue south of VP to St. Clair, but honestly, Clairlea is in the grey. As you mentioned, not as sidewalky as Topham, it also *somewhat* lacks the grid system and can be cul de sacy, but places that I consider inner Toronto (e.g. Woodbine Gardens in East York) are like that too. Grass medians between the sidewalk and road are also more common in Clairlea than Topham Park (Very noticeable on Vic Park). On the other hand, housing here seems to be akin to much of East York in terms of overal design and development phase, and front yard setbacks of the homes and apartments on St. Clair between Pharmacy and Providance Hospital are quite low. Of course, between Vic Park and Pharmacy, St. Clair, and Taylor Creek, I’d say that gives off “inner Toronto” vibes, but even there, the lack of sidewalks on a few streets is noticeable.

Maybe the thing about Clairlea is that it picks up more from the "Victory Housing" part of Topham Park--both in dwelling style and in planning style. (And with good reason; said Victory Housing was the model for acres of postwar CMHC subdivision such as Clairlea.)

And then there's the curious "Warner Park" gridiron pocket just a bit further N at O'Connor/Vic Pk/Eglinton, which I presume is an earlier spec-platted conceit--though there, there's not only grass medians, but in places no sidewalks at all, reflecting how this was basically exurbia whenever it was laid out. (And what's the story *there*? Anything WWII Golden Mile-related, or earlier?)

 

[christiesplits]

Spending a good chunk of my childhood living in the Topham Park, Clairlea always felt like an eastern extension of TP. In my previous post, I was gonna say that I’d consider the inner Toronto/outer Toronto border to continue south of VP to St. Clair, but honestly, Clairlea is in the grey. As you mentioned, not as sidewalky as Topham, it also *somewhat* lacks the grid system and can be cul de sacy, but places that I consider inner Toronto (e.g. Woodbine Gardens in East York) are like that too. Grass medians between the sidewalk and road are also more common in Clairlea than Topham Park (Very noticeable on Vic Park). On the other hand, housing here seems to be akin to much of East York in terms of overal design and development phase, and front yard setbacks of the homes and apartments on St. Clair between Pharmacy and Providance Hospital are quite low. Of course, between Vic Park and Pharmacy, St. Clair, and Taylor Creek, I’d say that gives off “inner Toronto” vibes, but even there, the lack of sidewalks on a few streets is noticeable.

It's wild to me that Topham Park was in the same borough as Leaside. They feel like two completely different worlds, albeit Leaside never liked being lumped in with East York. As a born and raised East Yorker (closer to Greektown), anything past Taylor Creek felt like Scarborough.

 

[DanielMar_Toronto]

It's wild to me that Topham Park was in the same borough as Leaside. They feel like two completely different worlds, albeit Leaside never liked being lumped in with East York. As a born and raised East Yorker (closer to Greektown), anything past Taylor Creek felt like Scarborough.

When I was younger, I thought anything north of the Don/DVP (via both Don Mills and Millwood) was in North York lol. Thorncliffe Park is probably the only part of East York that doesn’t feel like an “inner Toronto” neighbourhood, and much more akin to something you’d find in North York, Scarborough, and Etobicoke. While VERY densely populated, its overall development is more spread out (also, I find with East York, condo/apartment towers are concentrated in certain areas, and Thorncliffe has REALLY tall buildings). As for the rest of Leaside, it has much more brand retail than “traditional“ East York, where depending where you live, along the Danforth in Old Toronto or Golden Mile in Scarborough is where the big retailers/high concentration of commercial land use is. With that being said, the layout and overall style of the residential parts of Leaside feel very “East York” imo. It’s almost like squeezing Warden/Eglinton and Donlands/O’Connor into 1 lol.

To the point about Leaside not wanting to be apart of East York, I remember last spring, I was reading Alan Redways EY book, and he soemthing along the lines that both Leaside and East York found that they were more similar than the thought, but idk as I wasn’t around when the Toronto 1998 amalgamation took place, never mind when Leaside and East York were separate.

 

[christiesplits]

It's the opposite in Scarborough for sure. Just poking around on google earth I noticed that the houses on the west side of victoria park always tend to be bigger than those on the east side. Walking around the area you don't notice much but I find it interesting.

I've noticed a resurgence of Scarborough pride in recent years, particularly among Gen X and Millennials, thanks to platform liks Scarborough Spots, which lean heavily on nostalgia and iconography.

 

[marcus_a_j]

I've noticed a resurgence of Scarborough pride in recent years, particularly among Gen X and Millennials, thanks to platform liks Scarborough Spots, which lean heavily on nostalgia and iconography.

I get a lot of nods on the street when I wear my "Kid From Scarborough" tee. I also got the Deltatron tee, but the cut (fit) is terrible and the ink on the back makes the shirt way too heavy. I would have returned but lost the receipt.

 

[DanielMar_Toronto]

I get a lot of nods on the street when I wear my "Kid From Scarborough" tee. I also got the Deltatron tee, but the cut (fit) is terrible and the ink on the back makes the shirt way too heavy. I would have returned but lost the receipt.

Scarborough Spots has a few locations, including one at Eglinton Square with many “Kid From Scarborough” merch. Here’s a few pics I got yesterday!

Edit: Photos should be up now

 

[Towered]

Pffffttttt...Scarborough trying so hard to be cool, which it will never be.

 

[vic]

Step into York at the bus loop at Rogers and Weston Roads, and you'll find this CITY OF YORK PARKS AND RECREATION bench.

 

[DanielMar_Toronto]

Now here’s an interesting layout. Woodbine Avenue, where East York dips down to about Strathmore Blvd. The closest East York gets to the Danforth without touching it (the boundary heads back north at Westlake Avenue. East York does of course touch the Danforth and continues a bit south at Vic Park (Shoppers World)).

Anyways, you see the old EY street signs on the acorn street light of Old Toronto. By the looks of it, the street sign and light are in Old Toronto, but Strathmore itself is in East York (from here to Ceadervale). Also, with the new(er) Woodbine Station entrance on Strathmore, you can technically now say East York does have a subway station within it, or, partially within it (not including the stations on the never opening LRT lol).

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.686...try=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw== Worth noting that this Old Toronto street sign is technically within East York. Also, when were these versions of the black/white Old Toronto signs made?

OpenStreetMap

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www.openstreetmap.org

 

[marcus_a_j]

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Now here’s an interesting layout. Woodbine Avenue, where East York dips down to about Strathmore Blvd. The closest East York gets to the Danforth without touching it (the boundary heads back north at Westlake Avenue. East York does of course touch the Danforth and continues a bit south at Vic Park (Shoppers World)).

Anyways, you see the old EY street signs on the acorn street light of Old Toronto. By the looks of it, the street sign and light are in Old Toronto, but Strathmore itself is in East York (from here to Ceadervale). Also, with the new(er) Woodbine Station entrance on Strathmore, you can technically now say East York does have a subway station within it, or, partially within it (not including the stations on the never opening LRT lol).

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6869777,-79.3112837,3a,16.1y,300.6h,89.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s__r4VHNQb8bcu_9vK7xxKg!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?cb_client=maps_sv.tactile&w=900&h=600&pitch=0.4649446606258607&panoid=__r4VHNQb8bcu_9vK7xxKg&yaw=300.59794514247244!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en-ca&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw== Worth noting that this Old Toronto street sign is technically within East York. Also, when were these versions of the black/white Old Toronto signs made?

OpenStreetMap

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www.openstreetmap.org

If you were to take the same photo at night, the Old City of Toronto acorn light would have a white hue, while the East York light would have an orange hue. You can see this change on many of the major north-south streets like Woodbine, Coxwell, Donlands, Pape, etc.

 

[DanielMar_Toronto]

It’s interesting and fitting how the 2 former municipalities with “hard” boundaries (Scarborough and Etobicoke) have these signs on the 401 and 427 respectively. I know the MTO treated Metro Toronto as if it were a single entity, but even in the early 2010’s, well after amalgamation, civic centre signs like this one for Scarborough (and on the 427 for Etobicoke) were added. Weirdly, not even North York has as far as I know.

 

[marcus_a_j]

There's a similar sign on the DVP for East York Civic Centre that is still posted.

(Google Maps)

 

[paraone]

A perfect example of the border between Toronto and East York.... the acorn lights, housing stock, heck you can even see the line in the asphalt, lol

 

[DanielMar_Toronto]

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A perfect example of the border between Toronto and East York.... the acorn lights, housing stock, heck you can even see the line in the asphalt, lol

The housing stock seems to closer/passed at Mortimer I noticed in most places, then the detached 50’s (?) home become prevalent. Although, on Woodbine, it seems pre-war homes go almost as far north as O’Connor. The section of East York between Woodbine, Vic Park, Taylor Creek, and the Old Toronto boundary seem to be pre-war with very few exceptions.