PaulTheMaul
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Why? What did happen or what could happen?
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Why? What did happen or what could happen?
Admiral Beez
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I disagree. My current employer, now of five years, found me on Workopolis. I wasn't even in the same industry. My profile simply said I had marketing and sales expertise in the food/agricultural sector, and now I work for a Fortune 200 firm in a marketing role I absolutely love, with opportunities to travel and one-day relocate globally, defined benefit pension, low MER TSFA with employer contribution, good benefits, and for the private sector good job security. I get to build products and then see them on sale on Canadian retailer shelves.
My very first job out of school (Poly Sci BA (Hons), plus one year Int'l Trade diploma from GBC) was found in the Toronto Star classified ads in 1996. I stayed there for four years as their export sales and marketing manager, travelling around the world selling food products. It was a great job, and fantastic stepping stone to new and good opportunities and positions.
My next job was found on Workopolis, where a recruiter found me and got me an offer in Fredericton, NB as a export sales guy in the food biz. I had the fortune of travelling to Europe, Israel, China, throughout New England and east coast USA to sell and market their products.
So, I'd say never disregard the job boards. If you're not getting call backs, maybe it's not them (i.e. employers), but you that needs to work on your profile and offering.
James
Senior Member
If I could add, I don't believe the job boards are entirely useless. For a recent grad or for someone without a lot of experience, yes, I find the job boards are a shot in the dark. Without specific experience requirements, precise knowledge of a certain operation, or a track record of successful project management, it's difficult for employers to distinguish between one candidate to another. If you have 5+ years experience in a specific industry or field, you'll find the job boards much easier as far as identifying positions where you're an obvious candidate match.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Eight years too late, but this article about an art history student discovering a famous artist's painting were copies of others' work sounds the beginning of a good career in auction houses and risk management.
Early Works by Edward Hopper Found to Be Copies of Other Artists (Published 2020)
A grad student’s discovery challenges the notion that Hopper was an absolute original, uninfluenced by others.
pman
Senior Member
Definitely get on LinkedIn. For one thing, recruiter algos comb it for their searches. For another, you’ll probably find you know a lot of people there already and you can develop a network for further connections and advice. A lot of jobs are posted there as well.
yin_yang
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Definitely LinkedIn!
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Yes. When my friends and colleagues ask me for help on finding a job the first thing I do is send their LinkedIn profile to my network of over 900 connections.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Do we still think Linkedin is useful? I'm no longer sure.
I come to realize that I am old school. Earlier this summer, as the asst. director of a SME I posted a job ad on Indeed, put our industry's specific accreditation in the "must have" field and waited. I received over one hundred rubbish application that did not have the necessary accreditation, as well as a dozen that did. I personally e-mailed each one of the dozen, thanking them for their application. I manually went through each resume, and got it down to about six that suited. We then asked to interview (Zoom) what we thought were the best three. After each interview I sent an email thanking them for coming in and that we'd be in touch. We then asked the best of the three to come in and meet the mgmt. team in person, after which we made a formal job offer by email, clearly outlining the role and responsibilities (I seen too many cases of employers hiring someone for a role, only to expand or entirely change their role once hired, setting them up for failure). I then circled back and emailed the other eleven candidates that we had hired someone else, but thanking them for their time, wishing them well as they grow in our industry, and asking them to keep an eye on our job postings.
The reason I do all that is that I am hiring from within our specific industry, and today's applicant may be tomorrow's manager of procurement at our largest customer. So, be kind. Of course we're a SME without corporate HR, so we're not getting thousands of resumes nor hiring for dozens of jobs, so I appreciate that my methods do not easily scale. But as a grumpy Gen-X who's watched Office Space too many times, I sleep better at night knowing that I'm not making job applicants suffer.
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lenaitch
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Our son-in-law is fairly high up in corporate IT and one of the problems they face with Zoom interviews is candidates using AI prompts to respond to questions. Apparently some aren't all that good at it (eye movement, body language, etc.) but some are quite good and he's had to devise a number of questions that confuse or reveal an AI response. he says it works fairly well but it's an ongoing process to try and stay one step ahead.