[CapitalSeven]

That's Canadian planning. Remember the Front Street Extension, and Liberty New Street?

Go back to the VIA Rail thread, 8 years ago this weekend. We realized that there were going to be two networks, a fast one through Peterborough and a more regional one along the lakeshore. 8 years ago. And someone posted this infogram showing the great leap forward that would be in place by 2023. Well, it's almost 2025, and we're about to find out what will be planned to start construction circa 2029. And when would it open? Hint: it has taken 4.5 years to extend the Trillium Line in Ottawa less than 12 kilometers through open fields, and more than a decade to build Eglinton Crosstown. So, 2040ish? And $5.25B is now ten times that, last rumours have it.

 

[Northern Light]

The ReNew Golden Mile Plan has finally arrived at next week's Planning and Housing Ctte.

If adopted, it will set the new alignment for O'Connor and will lift the 'H' on the Eglinton Square lands.

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2025/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-252061.pdf

 

[JBR]

Took 6 years to figure out a road grid while developers wait and wait and wait for their plans to be stamped approved. Crosstown will open and then the area will be all torn up for utility works plus dump trucks, concrete trucks and material deliveries ruining the freshly done Eglinton pavement. What a failure this has been so far…

 

[Northern Light]

Took 6 years to figure out a road grid while developers wait and wait and wait for their plans to be stamped approved. Crosstown will open and then the area will be all torn up for utility works plus dump trucks, concrete trucks and material deliveries ruining the freshly done Eglinton pavement. What a failure this has been so far…

I agree this work has been excessively delayed. However, that's not solely on Planning/Transportation. Certain property owners have furiously lobbied, and taken various legal avenues to delay OPAs/SASPs etc. that have been part of the story here.

Metrolinx would likely have blocked any new road construction near their project as they have authority to do from the province, so had this moved more quickly, its unlikely any work on a new O'Connor would have been started.

Indeed, that work is far from imminent even now.

At the same time, as @innsertnamehere has discussed elsewhere, the developments proposed here will be rolled out over a very long time, and probably look different, and maybe smaller than today's plans indicate.

 

[JBR]

I agree this work has been excessively delayed. However, that's not solely on Planning/Transportation. Certain property owners have furiously lobbied, and taken various legal avenues to delay OPAs/SASPs etc. that have been part of the story here.

Metrolinx would likely have blocked any new road construction near their project as they have authority to do from the province, so had this moved more quickly, its unlikely any work on a new O'Connor would have been started.

Indeed, that work is far from imminent even now.

At the same time, as @innsertnamehere has discussed elsewhere, the developments proposed here will be rolled out over a very long time, and probably look different, and maybe smaller than today's plans indicate.

I’m glad you agree. In the past I think we have butt heads over this topic.

It’ll be another 20-30 years of construction along golden mile with all the projects that are submitted. We’ll be ordering new train sets for Line5 before the last towers are built.

 

[nfitz]

Took 6 years to figure out a road grid while developers wait and wait and wait for their plans to be stamped approved.

Then why did the developers drag the plan through the legal system for years - for relatively minor changes?

 

[JBR]

Then why did the developers drag the plan through the legal system for years - for relatively minor changes?

Not sure I agree. Looking at most of the applications along this stretch it’s the city/drp that rejected/sent them back to the drawing board. Now post covid construction has slowed + the high interest rates has brought condo demand way down.

 

[Northern Light]

Not sure I agree. Looking at most of the applications along this stretch it’s the city/drp that rejected/sent them back to the drawing board. Now post covid construction has slowed + the high interest rates has brought condo demand way down.

You're misunderstanding.

The developers/owners appealed the City's Secondary Plan.

We're not talking about the site by site stuff; but the over-arching plan which includes the transportation infrastructure.