[micheal_can]

I must have lost that with all the fantasy and map discussions.

The issue in Montreal was that there was only a 2-track ultimate capacity through the tunnel, and both were lost to the REM LRT. I believe the CP mainline can support 6 tracks.

Why take 2 or more away from having a smaller Union corridor there? What would it solve that having it GO/regular rail wouldn't?

 

[Bojaxs]

I must have lost that with all the fantasy and map discussions.

The issue in Montreal was that there was only a 2-track ultimate capacity through the tunnel, and both were lost to the REM LRT. I believe the CP mainline can support 6 tracks.

The Midtown? No way. I put it at 4 tracks, max. Got to take into account making space for station platforms. CP doesn't concern themselves with station platforms, so of course they could squeeze 6 tracks in if they wanted to.

 

[nfitz]

Why take 2 or more away from having a smaller Union corridor there? What would it solve that having it GO/regular rail wouldn't?

Why ask so many absurd questions?

 

[micheal_can]

Why ask so many absurd questions?

What I feel is absurd is changing out the existing technology for something else. However, instead of insulting someone, I ask their reasoning to understand why they think it is the best option. Ontario's track record when it comes to using something other than what already exists in the area has been abysmal at best. SRT comes to mind instantly.

 

[ARG1]

Most of New York City's railway stations are located NOT in the "downtown", but in midtown Manhattan. For example, Grand Central Station and Penn Station.

Sort of but not really. In terms of what the neighbourhoods are literally called, you are correct - but the names represent historic development rather than represent anything meaningful in the present day. For all intents and purposes, "Midtown Manhattan" is NYC's true CBD and "downtown" - being the part of the city with the most development and the highest job concentration. The reason for this is essentially because of Penn and Grand Central Stations - their placement in Midtown, alongside with the breakthroughs in highrise construction at the time meant that Midtown became the premier development hotspot for the Island, and quickly overshadowed Downtown Manhattan as the more important center for the island. This can even be seen with how the NYC Subway developed, where initially the BMT built their main Manhattan Hub at Chambers Street with the tracks looping around the Williamsburg and Brooklyn Bridges. Not even a decade after the loop opened however, they had to redesigned that entire section to instead direct trains up Broadway to Midtown because they realized that that was a far more important destination to serve. To this day, Chambers Street sits as an overbuilt decaying mess that stands as a testament to poor long term planning and decision making.

 

[T3G]

Hey now, no hating on Chambers Street!

It might be decrepit and foul but the base design is endlessly fascinating. I am hoping that the renovation progresses smoothly and that I'll get a chance to visit the station restored to its former glory.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Sort of but not really. In terms of what the neighbourhoods are literally called, you are correct - but the names represent historic development rather than represent anything meaningful in the present day. For all intents and purposes, "Midtown Manhattan" is NYC's true CBD and "downtown" - being the part of the city with the most development and the highest job concentration. The reason for this is essentially because of Penn and Grand Central Stations - their placement in Midtown, alongside with the breakthroughs in highrise construction at the time meant that Midtown became the premier development hotspot for the Island, and quickly overshadowed Downtown Manhattan as the more important center for the island. This can even be seen with how the NYC Subway developed, where initially the BMT built their main Manhattan Hub at Chambers Street with the tracks looping around the Williamsburg and Brooklyn Bridges. Not even a decade after the loop opened however, they had to redesigned that entire section to instead direct trains up Broadway to Midtown because they realized that that was a far more important destination to serve. To this day, Chambers Street sits as an overbuilt decaying mess that stands as a testament to poor long term planning and decision making.

Which means Line 1's Summerhill Station is in Toronto expanding "downtown". Located midway between Line 1's Bloor and Line 5's Eglinton Stations.

 

[MisterF]

Sort of but not really. In terms of what the neighbourhoods are literally called, you are correct - but the names represent historic development rather than represent anything meaningful in the present day. For all intents and purposes, "Midtown Manhattan" is NYC's true CBD and "downtown" - being the part of the city with the most development and the highest job concentration. The reason for this is essentially because of Penn and Grand Central Stations - their placement in Midtown, alongside with the breakthroughs in highrise construction at the time meant that Midtown became the premier development hotspot for the Island, and quickly overshadowed Downtown Manhattan as the more important center for the island. This can even be seen with how the NYC Subway developed, where initially the BMT built their main Manhattan Hub at Chambers Street with the tracks looping around the Williamsburg and Brooklyn Bridges. Not even a decade after the loop opened however, they had to redesigned that entire section to instead direct trains up Broadway to Midtown because they realized that that was a far more important destination to serve. To this day, Chambers Street sits as an overbuilt decaying mess that stands as a testament to poor long term planning and decision making.

New York is interesting because that's where the term "downtown" came from and it has since become a generic word to describe something that it doesn't quite mean anymore in the city that invented it.

Which means Line 1's Summerhill Station is in Toronto expanding "downtown". Located midway between Line 1's Bloor and Line 5's Eglinton Stations.

No.

 

[abovegrade]

I kind of hope this line branches through Malvern instead of going via box grove. That would be transformational for the area and connectivity in Scarborough.