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So the locomotive tender is for 13 initially with an option for 20 more it seems. If exercised, it would be 33 locomotives in total. Source below:


I think Siemens would have trouble meeting the required delivery timeline, as they have a bazillion orders from everyone (Amtrak, VIA, Brightline, Exo, etc.).

I personally hope the F125 is the winner (if it even is an option). Metrolink (not Metrolinx) had some initial teething issues with them but it seems to be sorted out now. They look great in my opinion.

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So the locomotive tender is for 13 initially with an option for 20 more it seems. If exercised, it would be 33 locomotives in total. Source below:


I think Siemens would have trouble meeting the required delivery timeline, as they have a bazillion orders from everyone (Amtrak, VIA, Brightline, Exo, etc.).

I personally hope the F125 is the winner (if it even is an option). Metrolink (not Metrolinx) had some initial teething issues with them but it seems to be sorted out now. They look great in my opinion.

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Does the Siemens charger use wabco control stands? Is that something the customer can specify?
 
GO doesn’t have a homogeneous fleet right now-
F59PH - EMD710
MP40 OG - EMD710
MP40 - QSK60x2 but DC motors (647)
MP40(T4) - QSK60x2 and AC motors

16 locomotives would be at or more than the entire fleet of many North American commuter railroads.

And with the MP40’s now reaching mid-life (yes, it has been that long…..), there’s a tipping point economically and mechanically

- Paul
 
So the locomotive tender is for 13 initially with an option for 20 more it seems. If exercised, it would be 33 locomotives in total. Source below:


I think Siemens would have trouble meeting the required delivery timeline, as they have a bazillion orders from everyone (Amtrak, VIA, Brightline, Exo, etc.).

I personally hope the F125 is the winner (if it even is an option). Metrolink (not Metrolinx) had some initial teething issues with them but it seems to be sorted out now. They look great in my opinion.

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I’m still bitter about their exit from Ontario and move to a state with shittier labour laws.
 
I’m still bitter about their exit from Ontario and move to a state with shittier labour laws.
Well that's the thing. Less intensive labour laws equal to more profit. Then again the unions here are extremely strong when it comes to leverage on wages. It made sense for them to move to a place where the unions aren't that strong
 
So apparently GO studied longer trains for the Milton Line just before COVID hit (which effectively killed that idea). Someone I know has already submitted an ATIP for it; but does anyone know what the proposed length was?
 
So apparently GO studied longer trains for the Milton Line just before COVID hit (which effectively killed that idea). Someone I know has already submitted an ATIP for it; but does anyone know what the proposed length was?
Considering that with more than 12 cars you would need a second locomotive and would not fit on the platform I don't understand the benefit except for the fact that you would not need to pay for another track slot.
 
So apparently GO studied longer trains for the Milton Line just before COVID hit (which effectively killed that idea). Someone I know has already submitted an ATIP for it; but does anyone know what the proposed length was?
This could be wrong but the chatter I heard from railfans was 16 car trains. Evidently GO’s T4 locos could haul 16 cars fine on its own.
 
But then you would still need to extend the platforms.
A little asphalt at a few stations wouldn't be expensive. I don't think there's any island platforms on that route. And there's some platform at Union that can already handle 24-car trains.

Would any stations be a particular challenge? (though if there was one or two, many systems operate by not opening all doors at some stations with shorter platforms).
 

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