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smallspy said:
I read it as being off-the-shelf, proven technology that is being used elsewhere. It's just that there is no off-the-shelf solution for the North American sphere of operations, and so they're going to have to design a custom shell to house all of these off-the-shelf components in.

Dan
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what will these locos do that an ALP-46 can’t? (other than not having/needing multi system transformers)? I can’t recall what the particulars of the tender were
 
dowlingm said:
what will these locos do that an ALP-46 can’t? (other than not having/needing multi system transformers)? I can’t recall what the particulars of the tender were
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Other than being 10+ years newer, and thus be required to meet an updated set of regulatory standards?

Or maybe that Alstom wants to use locos based on their Prima design, rather than Bombardier's Traxx.

Dan
 
3 of the refurbished cab cars are lined up at Willowbrook, all facing west. Assuming those are 204, 207, and 212.

206 is away from all of them and still facing east.
 
Here is a bad shot from my phone of the pic I took. Full pics to come later.
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So with the London service ending. I'm assuming that means the F59s will be repurposed for their original role of pulling the smaller 6 car trains?
 
smallspy said:
Other than being 10+ years newer, and thus be required to meet an updated set of regulatory standards?

Or maybe that Alstom wants to use locos based on their Prima design, rather than Bombardier's Traxx.

Dan
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What sort of regulations would have changed? I’ll buy it, just curious.

Kassel are building ALP-45As for NJT so presumably the expertise and tooling is still there to do an ALP-46, and changes in regulations of less concern. Certainly more of a proven family in North American conditions, given how the 45As were ordered (last 8 added to order in 2020) so NJT could get rid of Alstom built PL42ACs.
 
dowlingm said:
What sort of regulations would have changed? I’ll buy it, just curious.
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Solely off of the top of my head:
- Headlights
- Cab intrusion (this one has affected numberboards and their locations on new and rebuilt freight locos)

Granted neither is insurmountable (assuming that any other regulatory changes have been far more minor in scope) in the grand scheme of things, but they are changes that have nonetheless affected the loco builders.

dowlingm said:
Kassel are building ALP-45As for NJT so presumably the expertise and tooling is still there to do an ALP-46, and changes in regulations of less concern. Certainly more of a proven family in North American conditions, given how the 45As were ordered (last 8 added to order in 2020) so NJT could get rid of Alstom built PL42ACs.
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Despite the appearances, and a commonality of some mechanical components, I wouldn't assume that just because they're building more ALP-45s that the -46s are just around the corner. There are some major structural differences between the two of them. But then again, the ALP-46As were built concurrently with the first batch of -45s, and so may already incorporate the requisite changes.

Dan
 
GO 208 has been delivered to Mac Yard, expected to return back to GO’s hands within the next few days
 
RS3488 said:
I imagine the new electric won’t have dual ended cabs, since GO has all the consists have the cab car face west and loco face east.
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That can change down the road from what exist in the fleet today and what the fleet will look like in 10-15 years as equipment is retired or sold off base on the requirements at the time.

In Europe, you find 3-5-7 car set with duel power well at the same time having 6-10 car train like GO current setup. At times, you can find 2-5 set MU together to meet ridership needs or to be separated at X point as the demand is not there or breaking a part to service a few branch line with low ridership.

Having the flexibility of 3-7 car sets allows not having the one fit all fleet base on ridership and the routes.

If we are moving to 15 minutes or less service, I can see 5 car set being use on various lines, especially after 7 pm as well trains running all night.
 
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