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urbancog said:
By Metrolinx's project definitions, only the first 3 projects listed are in-scope for GO Expansion 1.0. The other 2 are in GO Extension.

Other on-going significant projects that are part of GO Expansion 1.0 are:
- 4th track between Strachan and Toronto West junction;
- New stations in Toronto {Bloor-Lansdowne, St Clair-Old Weston, Finch-Kennedy};
- A tender was also just released for "Various Lakeshore East Stations Upgrades Danforth GO, Eglinton GO, and Oshawa GO";
- Grade-separation of road-track intersections at Steeles/Stouffville, Burloak/LSW, Rutherford Rd/Barrie;
- Exhibition Station reconstruction

Not an insignificant amount of work, but we don't have access to a plan that ties the work to defined improvements in services.
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Let's describe them another way.
  • 4th track between Strachan and Toronto West junction - finishing work from the Georgetown South Project
  • New stations in Toronto - what's left of "SmartTrack"
  • Various Lakeshore East Stations - modern refreshes and state-of-good-repair
  • Grade-separation of road-track intersections - good incremental rail system upgrades that should happen along all popular passenger lines
  • Exhibition Station reconstruction - upgrades primarily driven by the Ontario Line IMO
It's hard to be impressed by that. Worthy projects to be sure, but a drop in the bucket of the future system capacity that's needed.
 
Allandale25 said:
Somewhat related to 1.0 and construction pictures:



via X post with the following images.

There was then a further post linking to a page describing the work and the renderings: https://www.metrolinx.com/en/projec...line-go-expansion/what-were-building/bramalea

One aspect I'll bring forward:



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Equipment was on the other side of the fence Thursday afternoon
 
urbancog said:
Construction at King City GO station on Friday
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I haven't seen an official description of the work being carried out....but....that station sits adjacent to a swamp with a very high water table on both sides.

If they are intending to double the platform with a pedestrian underpass, it will be a very interesting bit of construction.

- Paul
 
Apologies, I know we've had this conversation probably some where earlier in this thread.

Is the plan to add express trains on the Barrie line by constructing strategically place sidings along the line?

Where exactly are these sidings going to be located?

There's a third track/ siding at Rutherford GO, correct?
 
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Bojaxs said:
Apologies, I know we've had this conversation probably some where earlier in this thread.

Is the plan to add express trains on the Barrie line by constructing strategically place sidings along the line?
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Room has been left at several stations for a third (middle) track, yes. And at least one bridge has a third track roughed in as well

However, there is no plan to build that third track anytime soon.. It's just futureproofing for expansion at some later date.

- Paul
 
Metroscapes said:
Let's describe them another way.
  • 4th track between Strachan and Toronto West junction - finishing work from the Georgetown South Project
  • New stations in Toronto - what's left of "SmartTrack"
  • Various Lakeshore East Stations - modern refreshes and state-of-good-repair
  • Grade-separation of road-track intersections - good incremental rail system upgrades that should happen along all popular passenger lines
  • Exhibition Station reconstruction - upgrades primarily driven by the Ontario Line IMO
It's hard to be impressed by that. Worthy projects to be sure, but a drop in the bucket of the future system capacity that's needed.
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Would the ongoing track doubling on Stouffville and Barrie fit under GO Expansion 1.0 as well? That work is (incredibly) still ongoing afaik?

What about the track improvements to Guelph/Kitchener?
 
robmausser said:
Would the ongoing track doubling on Stouffville and Barrie fit under GO Expansion 1.0 as well? That work is (incredibly) still ongoing afaik?

What about the track improvements to Guelph/Kitchener?
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I agree Stouffville and Barrie expansions are impressive undertakings. Track improvements are probably under a bucket with the original December 2011 extension to Kitchener, which had an EA proposing double-tracking and interim passing tracks.

Ultimately, my point is electrification is supposed to be a large network-wide transformation, and while we've studied the foundation of that (electric trains and power infrastructure), the province has spun its wheels trying to lump other pieces into it.
 
Metroscapes said:
Ultimately, my point is electrification is supposed to be a large network-wide transformation, and while we've studied the foundation of that (electric trains and power infrastructure), the province has spun its wheels trying to lump other pieces into it.
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I would nitpick a little - the province has bungled the execution of a transformation, for which electrification is a vital enabler, but not the end goal.
The province is just as happy selling an ethereal promise of a better day, and dragging out the promise without actually moving towards it.
Electrification happens to be a later aspect that they have left unstarted… easy to notice that it isn’t happening….but the unfinished track construction is something they actually took on, and can’t get finished. Lots of holes in the ground, lots of earth moved….but 2WAD is stalled at hourly with big gaps in counter peak service. That’s the transformational element that has already been attemptesd and botched.

- Paul
 
crs1026 said:
I would nitpick a little - the province has bungled the execution of a transformation, for which electrification is a vital enabler, but not the end goal.
The province is just as happy selling an ethereal promise of a better day, and dragging out the promise without actually moving towards it.
Electrification happens to be a later aspect that they have left unstarted… easy to notice that it isn’t happening….but the unfinished track construction is something they actually took on, and can’t get finished. Lots of holes in the ground, lots of earth moved….but 2WAD is stalled at hourly with big gaps in counter peak service. That’s the transformational element that has already been attemptesd and botched.

- Paul
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Yeah that was my point a couple pages back. It's one thing to bungle a huge transformative effort like electrification and new vehicle procurement, adding new signaling system, etc.

Literally just putting more tracks in a corridor has to be one of the easiest parts of this expansion project. And they can't even manage that in a realistic timeline.
 
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