Undead
Senior Member
The Star and CBC are pretty crap, but calling the Sun credible is also a stretch.
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WB62
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Oh man can’t wait to see that in the equipment thread, along with “theories” on why they aren’t in service yet
Jonny5
Senior Member
The Hamilton QEW bus was amazing, especially back in the off-peak and pre speed-limiter days where the bus drivers would floor it and hit 120+ kph down the QEW.
You could depart Union at 10:00 p.m. and reach the first stop in Hamilton at 10:45. If you instead waited for the 10:13 GO train west to Aldershot, by 10:45 you would still only be leaving Clarkson on approach to Oakville station.
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ShonTron
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Yeah. GO had a few infamous leadfoot bus operators!
Metroscapes
Active Member
CPKC descends "down the (escarpment) brow" just northwest of where it says "Vinemount" on your map, that strip of green, and completes the grade change by Centennial (Road 56 on your map).
A CPKC connection for Hamilton Harbour is a good point, exclusive service by CN would not bode well for the harbour lands. This would need running rights, or some nighttime running arrangement like Waterloo Central Railway does along the ION tracks in Waterloo.
Again, this is pie in the sky thinking.
Toronto1834
Active Member
Took the weekend Niagara train for the first time yesterday. The 30mph zone extending from Bayview Junction to Red Hill Valley Pkwy is very noticeable and seems to add a fair amount of time. There seemed to be some shorter slow zones further along between Beamsville and St. Catherines. Are there any plans increase speed/ what work would need to be completed?
TheHonestMaple
Active Member
Daily occurrence for Toronto bound commuters out of West Harbour and Hamilton GO. It's due to the complicated switching in that section of the alignment. No, there is no plan to improve it. I've been complaining about it in this forum for years. Need a dedicated flyover.
Toronto1834
Active Member
The CN switching seemed to be west of West Harbour Station. What about the 8km from James Street to Red Hill Valley?
TheHonestMaple
Active Member
I think that's due to the numerous grade level crossings. Not sure though. Someone else on here probably knows better than I do.
It is supposed to be just 5 minutes though from Confederation GO to West Harbour GO once that is done. Which implies an average of 75km/h.
ARG1
Senior Member
They honestly all belong in the same dumping ground - 90% of the time their reporting is about as valuable as The Beaverton.
Toronto1834
Active Member
Thanks. They would definitely need to increase the track speed then. As at top speed of 48km/h (plus acceleration and deceleration) there is no way 8.5km could be covered in 5 minutes. I wonder what is in the works.
WB62
Senior Member
Where are you getting 5 minutes from? I haven’t heard that travel time estimate before and from what I can see there is no active work happening along the corridor that would speed trains up
crs1026
Superstar
The 30-35 mph zone speed from about MP 39 (historical City of Hamilton limits, roughly Woodward Ave) westwards goes back to at least 1942 and seems to be connected to a very early ban on whistling in that zone. There would have been a great deal of switching and yard moves in the area in past years, but the service tracks on both sides are mostly gone.
Over the years, a track speed of 65 to 70 was allowed from MP 39 east to the Seaway.
I certainly don't see anything preventing an upgrade provided the right crossing protection and sightlines are part of the deal. Sure hope that is in ML's agreement with CN.
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TheHonestMaple
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Can't remember. @Chris R. might know more.
SaugeenJunction
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Crossings are all currently being upgraded.