nfitz
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Why do you think anyone here could have the answer to that question? What's the point of asking it? You don't need to reply to every single post when there's nothing to say.
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Bojaxs
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Just block him! You guys have to resist the urge to respond to him. Everyone needs to have him blocked. That's the only way this will work.
nfitz
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We've been trying that for months - and I avoided replying to so many posts, and making complaints ... but then my feed is full of people who can't resist answering questions that are either already answered, as obvious as frig, or more rhetorical than real.
So how about we just deal with the issue, and improve the signal to noise ratio.
just east of the creek
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Thompson Manitoba where I am working this week, well, where the hotel is located. We just happened to be passing the Via Station and here we have Via 693 waiting to depart. It arrives at 12 ( maybe ) and departs at 5 for destinations north. Lovely ride but not really HSR. Bring supplies.
Thompson is a regional centre and the wait, I am told, is for people to conduct business in town
The train was sitting just outside of the station area.i would say 30 to 35 people were in the station waiting to board or reboard.
Thompson is a regional centre and the wait, I am told, is for people to conduct business in town
The train was sitting just outside of the station area.i would say 30 to 35 people were in the station waiting to board or reboard.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Interesting to read about the closed loop system CPKC has.
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CPKC keeps its fingers crossed amid trade war: Analysis - Trains
Canadian Pacific Kansas City CEO Keith Creel is the calm in the center of an international storm that threatens to engulf his railroad. With the 2023 merger of Canadian Pacific and Kansas City Southern, Creel’s CP made a $31 billion all-in bet on the combined railways’ ability to tap growing...
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Bordercollie
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Amtrak sidelines Horizon car fleet, leading to widespread cancellations (updated) - Trains
CHICAGO — Amtrak trains on several routes have been cancelled after the company removed its fleet of Horizon passenger cars from service because of concerns over corrosion, raising the possibility of long-term service disruptions. In a statement issued at 9 a.m. today (March 26, 2025), the...
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I take it that they didn't get built with stainless steel like the Amfleets did? You would think that they would know that the stainless steel cars last so long because they don't corrode like carbon steel does.
drum118
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smallspy
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The Horizon cars are based on Pullman-Standard's Comet commuter car design. They are built with aluminum bodies, which also doesn't rust.Amtrak sidelines Horizon car fleet, leading to widespread cancellations (updated) - Trains
CHICAGO — Amtrak trains on several routes have been cancelled after the company removed its fleet of Horizon passenger cars from service because of concerns over corrosion, raising the possibility of long-term service disruptions. In a statement issued at 9 a.m. today (March 26, 2025), the...
I take it that they didn't get built with stainless steel like the Amfleets did? You would think that they would know that the stainless steel cars last so long because they don't corrode like carbon steel does.
Dan
Bordercollie
Senior Member
But the frames are made of steel?
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smallspy
Senior Member
What frame? This isn't a pickup truck, the body is the load-carrying structure.
Dan
Bordercollie
Senior Member
So is the corrosion similar to what we see in the LRC's? They are both made from aluminum.
nfitz
Superstar
I thought the big safety concern about corrosion issues in the LRC cars was the beams. Surely such an old design didn't have that.
crs1026
Superstar
Almost all models of carbody have some amount of carbon steel components down underneath.
Different metals can corrode simply by being in contact with each other (stainless steel in contact with carbon steel can trigger this phenomenon as well, btw)
With the LRC's, there was also the problem of cleaning solutions eating away at the structure below washrooms etc.
Not enough has been reported to know exactly what's happening to the Horizon cars, but they are after all 35 years old. One ought to be watching for deterioration after this length of time.
- Paul
Different metals can corrode simply by being in contact with each other (stainless steel in contact with carbon steel can trigger this phenomenon as well, btw)
With the LRC's, there was also the problem of cleaning solutions eating away at the structure below washrooms etc.
Not enough has been reported to know exactly what's happening to the Horizon cars, but they are after all 35 years old. One ought to be watching for deterioration after this length of time.
- Paul
lenaitch
Senior Member
Besides. stainless steel is corrosion resistant, not corrosion proof. How much and how long depends on the grade of s/s and length of exposure to corrosives.
smallspy
Senior Member
Galvanic corrosion is a well enough known phenomenon that it doesn't really enter into the equation as a "gotcha!" for railway equipment anymore. Hell, even the 1954-built CC&F and Budd cars had steps and processes to their construction and assembly to mitigate against it quite effectively.
Dan