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Allandale25 said:
www.reviewjournal.com

Brightline West high-speed rail construction could start soon

Brightline West could start construction in 2025 for its planned high-speed rail line between Las Vegas and Southern California.
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I believe Las Vegas is the largest city in the USA without intercity passenger rail service..

Allandale25 said:
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This could be seen as a warning about what is happening here with HSR and Air Canada.
 
micheal_can said:
I believe Las Vegas is the largest city in the USA without intercity passenger rail service..


This could be seen as a warning about what is happening here with HSR and Air Canada.
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It taking place in Europe for flights 500 miles or less with a focus on using electrify rail system today and more in the coming years. UK and Europe are heavily investing in HSR from 220-350km lines and converting non electrify lines to electrify with a speed of 160km up to 200km where possible. They are reactivating lines that have not seen passenger trains for over 50 years with some being DMU or battery power,

Dealing with mountains on the west coast is not easy or cheap to do it for any type of line.

Texas is a Red State for any type of rail as well willing to pay for it. Ask Austin about their attempts to to get an LRT built there let along DMU Commuter Lines.
 
drum118 said:
It taking place in Europe for flights 500 miles or less with a focus on using electrify rail system today and more in the coming years. UK and Europe are heavily investing in HSR from 220-350km lines and converting non electrify lines to electrify with a speed of 160km up to 200km where possible. They are reactivating lines that have not seen passenger trains for over 50 years with some being DMU or battery power,

Dealing with mountains on the west coast is not easy or cheap to do it for any type of line.

Texas is a Red State for any type of rail as well willing to pay for it. Ask Austin about their attempts to to get an LRT built there let along DMU Commuter Lines.
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Europe=/=North America.
 
micheal_can said:
Europe=/=North America.
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Until there is True HSR in NA, Airline have nothing to fear other than other airlines taking passengers away from AC. We are still in the dark ages and decades behind Europe.
 
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High-Speed Switches
Union Pacific CP A131 cross-over complex with high-speed movable point frogs in Tama, Iowa.

Specialized high-speed crossovers are used on high density traffic mainlines that utilize Moveable Point Frogs( MPF). In addition to the switch points, Moveable Point Frogs add a second throw device to a turnout in the frog. They minimize wheel impacts across the frog gap, reduce noise, and are low maintenance because of the continuous running surface.

Note the rails that make up the "moving point" are very similar to a pair of switch point rails side-by-side. These rails are carefully machined so the base and head practically form one piece of rail. There is a "sliding action" between the two rails in the movable point.

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drum118 said:
Until there is True HSR in NA, Airline have nothing to fear other than other airlines taking passengers away from AC. We are still in the dark ages and decades behind Europe.
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I'm taking the train from Toronto to Penn Station NYC this summer. Once you account for the hour to get to Pearson, plus arriving at the gate at least three hours beforehand, and then the flight delays and other nonsense, and then the two hours of having to get from one of the three NY airports to downtown Manhattan, the thirteen hours on the Amtrak doesn't seem so bad.

If we can get passenger rail from Union to NYC (and one day, Chicago) to below eight or nine hours, AC will have trouble competing.
 
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Admiral Beez said:
Once you account for the hour to get to Pearson, plus arriving at the gate at least three hours beforehand, and then the flight delays and other nonsense, and then the two hours of having to get from one of the three NY airports to downtown Manhattan, the thirteen hours on the Amtrak doesn't seem so bad.
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That's not really my experience when flying to Newark vs the 9-hour drive (if there's no traffic). But I don't get to the gate (?) 3 hours beforehand. And the train from Newark International to Manhattan is very similar to the UP schedule, taking less than half-an-hour and running every 15 minutes.
 
Admiral Beez said:
I'm taking the train from Toronto to Penn Station NYC this summer. Once you account for the hour to get to Pearson, plus arriving at the gate at least three hours beforehand, and then the flight delays and other nonsense, and then the two hours of having to get from one of the three NY airports to downtown Manhattan, the thirteen hours on the Amtrak doesn't seem so bad.

If we can get passenger rail from Union to NYC (and one day, Chicago) to below eight hours, AC will have trouble competing.
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Going to NYC by Air is slow as you noted as well by car where it makes sense to use Amtrak. If more than you going to NYC, then the car starts to be a better option base on the number of people with you, other driving, tolls, but most of all, parking in NYC. There is no easy way using transit from any NYC airport to NYC downtown. Not only AC will have issues with HS trains to NYC, but all airlines. The one thing in favor of airlines, their schedules meet travelers time when they want to go as well arrive since Amtrak only has one train and arrival time can be hours late. Flying or using Amtrak takes the stress off you compared to driving and dealing with traffic issues. .

smallspy said:
The North-East Corridor indicates otherwise.

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The NEC is not a true HSR Corridor as it has many pinch points that are currently been address by Amtrak, but it going to take a decade or two to do it. I have seen some of those pinch point first hand.

How long has the NEC been around?? Lot longer than we have been.

At this point in time, there is no system in Europe that has a true HSR corridor from end to end and the NEC is in the same boat. the UK is supposed to be built that now, but nor sure for the ends. Until HS trains get out of the cities onto their ROW/tracks, they have to deal with lower speed,
 
drum118 said:
The NEC is not a true HSR Corridor as it has many pinch points that are currently been address by Amtrak, but it going to take a decade or two to do it. I have seen some of those pinch point first hand.

How long has the NEC been around?? Lot longer than we have been.
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Amtrak has captured as much as over 70% of certain markets in the NEC, and over 50% on the New York-Boston market.

And yet, as you correctly point out, it's not a true HSR.

I know why that is. Do you?

drum118 said:
At this point in time, there is no system in Europe that has a true HSR corridor from end to end and the NEC is in the same boat. the UK is supposed to be built that now, but nor sure for the ends. Until HS trains get out of the cities onto their ROW/tracks, they have to deal with lower speed,
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That's one of the major advantages of HSR, or frankly any higher-speed rail system - it uses the existing ROWs where it isn't cost-effective to create new ones.

Dan
 
GO Transit annual reports from 1986 to 1990. "Digitized by the Internet Archives in 2023 with funding from University of Toronto".

Interesting to start reading in 1986 with the cancellation of GO-ALRT. cc @crs1026

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