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Developments at Exhibition Station Get Massive Height, Density Boost | UrbanToronto

Infrastructure Ontario has unveiled an expanded concept for the Exhibition Transit-Oriented Community, adding three towers up to 54 storeys beside Exhibition GO station, soon also home to the future Ontario Line terminus. The plan proposes 1,448 residential units, new retail space, and major...
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If there's a place for density in LV, it's here or nowhere. Direct integration into the future Exhibition station is exciting and will transform how the community moves through this neighbourhood. Full steam ahead.
 
I don't like the current iteration.

I have no inherent problem with the height, but they've got two E-W slabs directly south of what will be LV's only substantial park in the western 1/2 of the area. That will block a lot of light.

The problem is easily solved if you turn the slabs N-S, but I imagine that would require additional land acquisition.
 
The towers are over 100 metres south of the park. I would want to see the shadow study to confirm, but shadow impacts are likely pretty minor and limited to shoulder seasons and in the morning hours.
 
innsertnamehere said:
The towers are over 100 metres south of the park. I would want to see the shadow study to confirm, but shadow impacts are likely pretty minor and limited to shoulder seasons and in the morning hours.
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To calculate shadow, you need need to know the sun's angle, relative to Toronto at a given time of day and at a given time of year.

So for June, the sun is at 70 degree angle at 1pm

A 40 degree angle at 9am

A 40 degree angle at 5pm.

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At the 40 degree angle, the shadow of a 150M building exceeds its height, ~178m

At the 70 degree angle, the shadow is only 55m.

For June, this aligns with your expectations.

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But in September the sun's angle at 1pm is 45 degrees, indicating a shadow of 150m

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A further note, if this is built, as proposed, you would imagine it triggering additional density to the north would you not? Then you get into those shadows as well.
 
Northern Light said:
I don't like the current iteration.

I have no inherent problem with the height, but they've got two E-W slabs directly south of what will be LV's only substantial park in the western 1/2 of the area. That will block a lot of light.

The problem is easily solved if you turn the slabs N-S, but I imagine that would require additional land acquisition.
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Given a few posts I've seen in the Liberty Village Residents Association Facebook group, residents have been actively crowdsourcing parks in the area that provide full shade during the day because they don't want their children out in the sun and the existing parks have too much sun. I'm sure they would welcome this park having more shade.

That said, at the consultation, IO did say tower placement was done with attention to shadowing of the park, with an aim of minimizing it with the location of the tallest tower at the east end of the site.
 
Tuscani01 said:
Given a few posts I've seen in the Liberty Village Residents Association Facebook group, residents have been actively crowdsourcing parks in the area that provide full shade during the day because they don't want their children out in the sun and the existing parks have too much sun. I'm sure they would welcome this park having more shade.
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We can always plant trees in the parks to offer shade within a portion of the space.

Look at LV Park, its an ugly mess..........but it does appear to have some shade:

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For trees that were planted ~2011.....these are really under performing. They're healthy looking.....but that growth rate is anemic. Makes me wonder about the soil.

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That said, at the consultation, IO did say tower placement was done with attention to shadowing of the park, with an aim of minimizing it with the location of the tallest tower at the east end of the site.
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Good to hear.
 
Missed opportunity if the city doesn't exchange this density increase for decking over the rail corridor to create green space over Exhibiton Place station's platforms like CIBC Square's elevated park. Replicate this along the entire rail corridor and we could get private development to fund a Rail Deck Corridor piecemeal.

At the very least Section 37 money should be spent on developing the Bentway on the segment across from these towers.
 
nightstreak said:
Missed opportunity if the city doesn't exchange this density increase for decking over the rail corridor to create green space over Exhibiton Place station's platforms like CIBC Square's elevated park. Replicate this along the entire rail corridor and we could get private development to fund a Rail Deck Corridor piecemeal.

At the very least Section 37 money should be spent on developing the Bentway on the segment across from these towers.
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Disagree. Deck is extremely expensive to build and to maintain, you can't have large trees as all vegetation has to be removed every 30'ish years to re-do the membranes.

Its less costly and more functional to deliver parks on land.

If you want to build over the rail corridor, better to put the building over the corridor and the park over land. But the current market definitely does not support that type of investment.
 
Commuting is the best part of living in Toronto.

This half of Liberty Village has so much potential and could use more residential densities. Three 40 storey towers on mid rise podiums beside a transit station that emphasizes number of commuters over building a mixed use community is not a good start. Toronto has 50 years of TOD development consisting of much higher heights and densities that haven't lived up to expectation. Adding mid rise podiums to those towers equal to the tallest structures in this half of Liberty Village with some commercial space is not going to increase the odds.

One tower can be a landmark but, not three towers in a row.
 
Why would they go from 20k square meters of office space to zero. What a wasted opportunity. A continuing gentrification that will push out small tech companies from the area when the ease of access should have been growing the areas potential for such things. It isn't just affordable housing this city needs, it is space to start businesses and to do creative things.
 
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