Habibfazil
Active Member
why don't they mention the scared off real and potential riders who will not take the risk.
All on the city, the bylaws are there, blame the city.
Overstating the fare evasion is a neat trick, WHAT is the real number???
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All on the city, the bylaws are there, blame the city.
Overstating the fare evasion is a neat trick, WHAT is the real number???
YEG Bus Rider
Active Member
Habibfazil
Active Member
and where are the professional provided numbers of "actual fare avoiders" VS "scared off riders".
You have no idea of how many have been scared off of transit, yet you have this facination about fare avoiders, which you once again fail to provide professionally derived numbers for...
thommyjo
Senior Member
Yeah, i
If we can’t keep uni students on transit, we ain’t doing it right.
Yeah, I know dozens of uni students who literally already pay for upass who choose to drive and pay for parking. Not to mention the fox drive congestion they experience and added gas costs…
If we can’t keep uni students on transit, we ain’t doing it right.
YEG Bus Rider
Active Member
What? I wasn't even thinking about fare evasion…
"If the Edmonton Transit Service does not have sufficient operating revenue to fund transit service and continues to be limited within existing operating and capital funding constraints, the City will not be able to expand or improve the network to accommodate near term population growth. This means service reductions for Light Rail Transit, and no Bus Rapid Transit network.”
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Gronk!
Senior Member
Transit riders organize to push for improved service and community
A group of frequent transit users who rely on the service has formed the Edmonton Transit Riders advocacy group to spur change and build a sense of community among passengers.
edmonton.taproot.news
IanO
Superstar
The bigger issue we need to discuss with ETS is that even though this recent press release is positive, net overall usage is considerably down since 2013/14 (our peak) given our population growth and stagnant usage.
YEG Bus Rider
Active Member
Understanding transit service & how transit service in Edmonton is actually used is important too.Transit riders organize to push for improved service and community
A group of frequent transit users who rely on the service has formed the Edmonton Transit Riders advocacy group to spur change and build a sense of community among passengers.
YEG Bus Rider
Active Member
Immigrant, international student population growth is helping ridership...
The all time high for ridership was 89 million in 2014, down to 87 million in 2018 (page 5).
YEG Bus Rider
Active Member
This'll hurt transit ridership growth. Immigrants & international students use & appreciate transit service.
Canada slashing immigration targets, eyes ‘pause’ on population growth
Canada slashing immigration targets, eyes ‘pause’ on population growth
TAS
Senior Member
It's still amazing to me that our overall transit use now (bus and lrt) is about the same or less than our peak of 2014 even though our population has increased by about 300,000 or 30+%.
Kosy123
Senior Member
I read somewhere that LRT ridership breached pre-pandemic levels in September, I'm not sure if I read that correctly, so don't quote me on that.
Edmcowboy11
Senior Member
Well maybe not scientific but by simple observation I can tell that more people are using park n ride at Davies on the Valley Line.
TAS
Senior Member
Yes and by pre-pandemic they mean 2019 levels, which weren't as high as 2014 levels. Our population has also grown by 15% since just 2019 so as a mode share, public transit is actually decreasing. The only thing actually increasing in terms of mode share is travel by vehicle - which of course just leads to more congestion and costs to city.
trevorhayden
Active Member
Traffic counts are actually stable due to increases in working from home, delivery service replacing shopping, and approved active transportation infrastructure.