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It's becoming obvious that Muslims are having a very difficult time coping with where the rest of the world is heading.

'Sensitivity' can have brutal consequences

February 5, 2006

BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST


I long ago lost count of the number of times I've switched on the TV and seen crazy guys jumping up and down in the street, torching the Stars and Stripes and yelling ''Death to the Great Satan!'' Or torching the Union Jack and yelling ''Death to the Original If Now Somewhat Arthritic And Semi-Retired Satan!'' But I never thought I'd switch on the TV and see the excitable young lads jumping up and down in Jakarta, Lahore, Aden, Hebron, etc., etc., torching the flag of Denmark.

Denmark! Even if you were overcome with a sudden urge to burn the Danish flag, where do you get one in a hurry in Gaza? Well, OK, that's easy: the nearest European Union Humanitarian Aid and Intifada-Funding Branch Office. But where do you get one in an obscure town on the Punjabi plain on a Thursday afternoon? If I had a sudden yen to burn the Yemeni or Sudanese flag on my village green, I haven't a clue how I'd get hold of one in this part of New Hampshire. Say what you like about the Islamic world, but they show tremendous initiative and energy and inventiveness, at least when it comes to threatening death to the infidels every 48 hours for one perceived offense or another. If only it could be channeled into, say, a small software company, what an economy they'd have.

Meanwhile, back in Copenhagen, the Danes are a little bewildered to find that this time it's plucky little Denmark who's caught the eye of the nutters. Last year, a newspaper called Jyllands-Posten published several cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed, whose physical representation in art is forbidden by Islam. The cartoons aren't particularly good and they were intended to be provocative. But they had a serious point. Before coming to that, we should note that in the Western world "artists" "provoke" with the same numbing regularity as young Muslim men light up other countries' flags. When Tony-winning author Terence McNally writes a Broadway play in which Jesus has gay sex with Judas, the New York Times and Co. rush to garland him with praise for how "brave" and "challenging" he is. The rule for "brave" "transgressive" "artists" is a simple one: If you're going to be provocative, it's best to do it with people who can't be provoked.

Thus, NBC is celebrating Easter this year with a special edition of the gay sitcom "Will & Grace," in which a Christian conservative cooking-show host, played by the popular singing slattern Britney Spears, offers seasonal recipes -- "Cruci-fixin's." On the other hand, the same network, in its coverage of the global riots over the Danish cartoons, has declined to show any of the offending artwork out of "respect" for the Muslim faith.

Which means out of respect for their ability to locate the executive vice president's home in the suburbs and firebomb his garage.

Jyllands-Posten wasn't being offensive for the sake of it. They had a serious point -- or, at any rate, a more serious one than Britney Spears or Terence McNally. The cartoons accompanied a piece about the dangers of "self-censorship" -- i.e., a climate in which there's no explicit law forbidding you from addressing the more, er, lively aspects of Islam but nonetheless everyone feels it's better not to.

That's the question the Danish newspaper was testing: the weakness of free societies in the face of intimidation by militant Islam.

One day, years from now, as archaeologists sift through the ruins of an ancient civilization for clues to its downfall, they'll marvel at how easy it all was. You don't need to fly jets into skyscrapers and kill thousands of people. As a matter of fact, that's a bad strategy, because even the wimpiest state will feel obliged to respond. But if you frame the issue in terms of multicultural "sensitivity," the wimp state will bend over backward to give you everything you want -- including, eventually, the keys to those skyscrapers. Thus, Jack Straw, the British foreign secretary, hailed the "sensitivity" of Fleet Street in not reprinting the offending cartoons.

No doubt he's similarly impressed by the "sensitivity" of Anne Owers, Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Prisons, for prohibiting the flying of the English national flag in English prisons on the grounds that it shows the cross of St. George, which was used by the Crusaders and thus is offensive to Muslims. And no doubt he's impressed by the "sensitivity" of Burger King, which withdrew its ice cream cones from its British menus because Rashad Akhtar of High Wycombe complained that the creamy swirl shown on the lid looked like the word "Allah" in Arabic script. I don't know which sura in the Koran says don't forget, folks, it's not just physical representations of God or the Prophet but also chocolate ice cream squiggly representations of the name, but ixnay on both just to be "sensitive."

And doubtless the British foreign secretary also appreciates the "sensitivity" of the owner of France-Soir, who fired his editor for republishing the Danish cartoons. And the "sensitivity" of the Dutch film director Albert Ter Heerdt, who canceled the sequel to his hit multicultural comedy ''Shouf Shouf Habibi!'' on the grounds that "I don't want a knife in my chest" -- which is what happened to the last Dutch film director to make a movie about Islam: Theo van Gogh, on whose ''right to dissent'' all those Hollywood blowhards are strangely silent. Perhaps they're just being "sensitive,'' too.

And perhaps the British foreign secretary also admires the "sensitivity" of those Dutch public figures who once spoke out against the intimidatory aspects of Islam and have now opted for diplomatic silence and life under 24-hour armed guard. And maybe he even admires the "sensitivity" of the increasing numbers of Dutch people who dislike the pervasive fear and tension in certain parts of the Netherlands and so have emigrated to Canada and New Zealand.

Very few societies are genuinely multicultural. Most are bicultural: On the one hand, there are folks who are black, white, gay, straight, pre-op transsexual, Catholic, Protestant, Buddhist, worshippers of global-warming doom-mongers, and they rub along as best they can. And on the other hand are folks who do not accept the give-and-take, the rough-and-tumble of a "diverse" "tolerant" society, and, when one gently raises the matter of their intolerance, they threaten to kill you, which makes the question somewhat moot.

One day the British foreign secretary will wake up and discover that, in practice, there's very little difference between living under Exquisitely Refined Multicultural Sensitivity and Sharia. As a famously sensitive Dane once put it, "To be or not to be, that is the question."

© Mark Steyn, 2006
 
Thanks, blixa--I really enjoyed that and would have missed it as I am not usually a reader of Steyn. He can be a bit right-wing for my tastes, but I think he is bang on here.
 
Okay, perhaps I've gone astray above, blame my newbie status I suppose

Newbie? I recognize your user name from a previous poster who'd spend most time on politics. What will be your new user name next time around?

Amiral des abeilles?
Admiral der Bienen?
Almirante das abelhas?
or Ammiraglio delle api?

Just wondering. :b
 
That's the second time here that someone has said something about my name. My nickname is is Abeja, which means honey bee, or domesticatic bee in Spanish. Machiega is my last name. Almirante, is my area of Madrid in Spain, and a popular fashion and shopping district. I've always loved politics, so this is the area I like to discuss. I think I'm more conservatively minded than others here, and my experience with Islam in Spain has left me somewhat jaded, which comes out in my postes here. What more do you want to know?
 
I think I'm more conservatively minded than others here, and my experience with Islam in Spain has left me somewhat jaded, which comes out in my postes here.

don't you mean right? you're not a lefty are you?
 
I agree,

I know lots of normal, great muslims. In fact, I dated one for a good while.

But really, it would go along way if the SMosques organized big rallies demoing against all those brutal things done in the name of Islam.

Go outside a big city and ask the average joe their take on Islam. If I was a good Christian, and people around me were always looking at me strange when i boarded a planes etc, I would be mighty pissed off. Both for me, and my faith.

Lets be clear here. Those God fearing nuts in the US south scare me too. But at this point they are not killing, or threatening me.
 
Lets be clear here. Those God fearing nuts in the US south scare me too. But at this point they are not killing, or threatening me.

A lot of them do kill though. The difference is, people are willing to view them as the exception. Too many people are willing to view Muslim terrorists, etc. as the norm.
 
I don’t know if any of you watched CBC’s The National last night but a professor at some NS university posted the cartoon on his door (along with several other non-Muslim cartoons) to promote free speech at the school. Soon afterwards a group of young Muslim men entered his office and demanded an apology, he refused and he was actually threatened by the students. Talk about living up to the violent stereotype.
 
Or...
Amiral des abeilles?
Admiral der Bienen?
Almirante das abelhas?
or Ammiraglio delle api?

Just wondering. :b
Just joking! :lol
 
I don’t know if any of you watched CBC’s The National last night but a professor at some NS university posted the cartoon on his door (along with several other non-Muslim cartoons) to promote free speech at the school. Soon afterwards a group of young Muslim men entered his office and demanded an apology, he refused and he was actually threatened by the students. Talk about living up to the violent stereotype.

Theatening violence is not acceptable (did they threaten him with violence?), but why would he post something that everybody now knows is offensive to Muslims on his door? You can promote free speech in other ways.
 
Did you guys hear about the competition being held by an Iranian newspaper which will publish a cartoon on the Holocust? The aim is to challenge all those newspapers that published, what some would find, offensive cartoons in the name of freedom of speech and expression and see if they would hold a double standard on this freedom of speech they hold on to so dearly.... The Danish newspaper already said they will publish them the day they are released in Iran
 
I can't accept that this apparent inconsistency is the fault of the western media, and that there were huge unreported Muslim public protests and demonstrations against violence after 9/11, Beslam, etc. If they occured, the media would have shown them, since it would make great news, the world against terror crosses all religions, sort of story.

Muslims, Arabs urge calm on cartoons
No major demonstrations Thursday over caricatures of Prophet Muhammad
Feb. 9, 2006. 07:13 PM
DONNA ABU-NASR
ASSOCIATED PRESS


BEIRUT, Lebanon — Many Arab governments, Muslim religious leaders and newspapers have been calling for calm in the protests over the Prophet Muhammad cartoons, fearing the violence of the past weeks has only reinforced Islam's negative image in the West.

No major demonstrations took place in Mideast and North African cities Thursday, suggesting the fervour was easing. But it wasn't clear whether the calm would last. A test may come after weekly Muslim prayers on Friday, when at least one large protest is planned, in Morocco.

The drawings, first published in a Danish newspaper then reprinted in other European publications, sparked outrage across the Islamic world. Protests turned violent in recent weeks in Iran, Syria, Lebanon and Afghanistan.

But many in the Middle East watched the stone-throwing, flag burnings and embassy attacks with sorrow. Some, including governments, religious leaders and newspaper writers, are trying to put on the brakes on the outrage, even if they feel Muslims are right to be angry.

"They committed a crime when they violated our prophet's sanctity," Mohammed Abdel-Qaddous, a prominent Egyptian writer on Islamic issues, said Wednesday at a forum organized by the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo.

"But if we set their embassy on fire, as happened in Syria or Lebanon, we will then be responding to their crime with another crime," he said.

Kuwait's parliament has urged restraint, saying "irresponsible acts" make the outpouring of emotions Muslims have shown for their religion and prophet "look like aggressiveness and destructiveness."

Iraq's top Shiite political leader, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, said only peaceful protests should be held. And the Saudi ambassador to Washington, Prince Turki al-Faisal, told The Associated Press in Dallas that the violence is "unhelpful and in many cases unnecessary."

"Our prophet himself was insulted, violence was inflicted upon him when he preached his message to the idolators and nonbelievers, and he met that violence with forgiveness," Turki said.

Some of those calling for calm said they have been put in the position of trying to balance out extremists who may be using the outrage as an opportunity to serve their own agendas. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Wednesday accused Iran and Syria of fanning the violence to rally support amid their own political confrontations with the West.

While no major demonstrations were held over the drawings Thursday, Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, speaking in Beirut at a religious ceremony for the Muslim celebration of Ashoura, urged Muslims to keep demonstrating until there is an apology.

"Defending the prophet should continue all over the world. Let Condoleezza Rice and Bush and all the tyrants shut up. We are an Islamic nation that cannot tolerate, be silent or be lax when they insult our prophet and sanctities," said the leader of Hezbollah, which is backed by Iran and Syria.

Even moderates say Muslims had every right to feel outrage over the 12 drawings, which include an image of their revered prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse.

But they fear the violent reaction in some quarters only worsens the clash of civilizations that many in the Mideast dread as much as the West.

"This time, Arabs and Muslims have entered a just war . . . but emerged from it with ruinous results that have led to a new distortion of Islam in the West," Saleh al-Qallab, a former Jordanian minister, wrote in the Saudi daily Asharq al-Awsat.

"We should be brave enough to admit that attempts to deepen the gap between the Christian West and the Muslim East have led to an Arab and Muslim defeat in this round," he added.

Ghassan Salame, a former Lebanese minister of culture, said the reaction was "disproportionate to the offence."

"I'm not sure this episode has done good for those who have called for mutual understanding and respect and did not do much to help moderate Islam market itself all over the world," he told The Associated Press.

It was a sentiment shared by many in the public.

"Those who use violence are overreacting," said Saleh al-Igrazi, 35, an Iraqi dentist. "They give a bad impression of Muslims, who are shown to the world to be troublemakers and even terrorists."

Some believe autocratic governments have kept the issue alive for political reasons: to redirect their citizens' anger, to burnish governments' Islamic credentials or to undermine reformists, whose quest for democracy is often identified with western calls for change.

"There's also a clear attempt to exploit that anger for political purposes almost everywhere, either to legitimize authoritarian regimes or to delegitimize calls for democratization," Salame said.

Samir Atallah, a Lebanese commentator, borrowed from Hamlet to express his rejection of the violence.

"Five centuries ago, Shakespeare said: `Something is rotten in the state of Denmark,' " he said. "There's something even more rotten in other states."

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+1 Billion Muslims, you can't expect them all to be flag-burning monsters as you show them to be!
 
Muslim cartoon clash hits Halifax
Lecturer stirs outrage after posting drawings
In Montreal, Muslim leaders cancel protest


Feb. 10, 2006. 05:28 AM
MICHAEL TUTTON
CANADIAN PRESS

HALIFAX—A peaceful protest turned tense yesterday when some Muslim students confronted a Halifax professor who drew criticism for posting contentious cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad on his office door.

Peter March, a philosophy professor at Saint Mary's University, said he was merely trying to promote a reasoned debate when he suddenly showed up in the midst of 100 protestors.

"You can't do philosophy directly and honestly without causing inflammation," he said as the protest march was getting started. "It's one of the side effects, rather like surgery."

When students realized who he was, a group of angry youths started shouting, "Go away!" and "You don't belong here!"

But March stood his ground, attempting to debate some of them before organizers urged the students to ignore him and move on.

The shouting matches, all captured by TV cameras, are precisely what some Canadian Muslim leaders fear contribute to negative stereotypes of their religion. Passions flared again on the university campus when March engaged in several discussions that soon turned to heated arguments.

He was helped into a campus building by police who barred the doors to a group of angry students.

In Montreal, leaders of dozens of Muslim organizations say they will not take part in a planned protest tomorrow against the cartoons and they appealed to followers to stay away as well.

Salam Elmenyawi, head of the Muslim Council of Montreal, said tensions were running very high and expressed concern about a public gathering. "I'm afraid of the one person who comes and creates a problem," he said. Mosques plan to distribute pamphlets as part of an education campaign about Islam.

Police are investigating after two mosques in Laval, north of Montreal, were vandalized earlier this week. Rocks were thrown through windows at the Islamic Cultural Centre and the Al-Hissane Islamic Centre.

Meanwhile, religious groups across Canada, including the Canadian Jewish Congress, have condemned the cartoons, saying they are needlessly provocative. Islamic tradition bars any depiction of the Prophet, favourable or otherwise, and violent protests have erupted throughout the Muslim world.

The professor who put the cartoons on his office door said he was merely trying to promote a reasoned debate.

"At the same time, we strongly denounce the verbally and physically violent reaction to their publication," CJC president Ed Morgan said. "We commend Canada's Muslim community for the civility with which it has protested and those media who have decided not to republish the cartoons."

In Halifax, protest organizers said they were responding to March's decision to post three cartoons on his office door Tuesday. On Wednesday, the university ordered the images removed, citing concerns over health and safety.

The professor complied, but he revived the debate yesterday when he delivered a classroom lecture to 60 students that focused on his belief that all religions are odious and lead to war.

March said academics must uphold the right of philosophers to be critical of religion.

Following the lecture, Muslim students said March was mocking their beliefs.

Student Shaheen Sajan questioned March's motives.

"Since this issue has come up, you have to question Peter March's credibility," she said. "He went out and gave his home address — my analysis is he's inviting aggressive behaviour. He wants his 15 minutes of fame."

On Prince Edward Island, the Muslim community is upset at the choice of the provincial university's student newspaper to publish the cartoons — and upset at the actions of some Muslims around the world who are using the cartoon issue to incite violence.

The Prophet is highly revered, said Zain Esseghaier, a community spokesperson.

"To see people insult him is an insult to Muslims and to Islam."

But the destruction that has occurred is also unacceptable to Muslims, said Esseghaier.

"Our faith does not teach us to react in such a way to people who insult us," he said. "To the contrary, the reaction should be calm, composed and dignified and that is how we intend to conduct ourselves here."


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This professor is an idiot. If he has a problem with religion, fine...but he seems to want to antagonize the Muslim population by posting an image he knows they find offensive. Im not a Muslim, but I can see why it would be offensive...a revered religious figure wearing a bomb shaped turban? It's so stereotypically offensive. If the cartoon had been about blacks or any other groups I doubt people would be so open to it.
 
If the cartoon had been about blacks or any other groups I doubt people would be so open to it.

I agree. I don't think this is about freedom of speech, it's about promoting hate toward a particular group. It's no different than publishing offensive cartoons mocking Jews or Blacks.
 

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