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2001 says that exactly what we said back then with 1/10th the disorder and 10x the retail.
I don't know what's going on in your personal sphere Ian, but I've started seeing your online behaviour in a "don't feed the troll" sense, rather than the informative fellow that was so consistently here. Can you please consider giving this a bit of a rest?

(Maybe an online forum isn't all that great for your wellbeing)
 
Yep, I was relieved when I stopped working in DT. Moved out of the core as a result. The City's approach is all money, no mouth.
So true. The greatest value proposition of living downtown is if you also work downtown, If you don't, it's hard to justify it over living in other walkable central neighbourhoods like Wihkwentowin, Garneau, Westmount, Strathcona, or even QMP, Blatchford, or Ritchiewhere there's less social disorder, less construction impacts, less noise, more green spaces and boulevard trees, better options for schools, the list goes on.

I don't mean to be critical on downtown but lord some days living in the core feels like an exercise in tolerance and patience, and I'm running out of both. I actually preferred when Michael Phair and Beaver Hills Park were under construction because it meant all the losers who loiter in them were hanging somewhere else and not adjacent to where I live for once.
 
So true. The greatest value proposition of living downtown is if you also work downtown, If you don't, it's hard to justify it over living in other walkable central neighbourhoods like Wihkwentowin, Garneau, Westmount, Strathcona, or even QMP, Blatchford, or Ritchiewhere there's less social disorder, less construction impacts, less noise, more green spaces and boulevard trees, better options for schools, the list goes on.

I don't mean to be critical on downtown but lord some days living in the core feels like an exercise in tolerance and patience, and I'm running out of both. I actually preferred when Michael Phair and Beaver Hills Park were under construction because it meant all the losers who loiter in them were hanging somewhere else and not adjacent to where I live for once.
As a denizen of downtown, I am so with you. We weren't even looking in this area but this condo stole our hearts away. We live in a beautiful building, very well maintained, with great neighbours, a truly fabulous layout, a giant kitchen (bigger and better appointed than anywhere else I've lived, including a big ass house in Texas!), and lots and lots of storage and windows. I love it. BUT: if I could take the whole building and cut and paste it somewhere west of 109 St? I'd do it in a heartbeat! A nanosecond!

As an aside, hearing my Wihkwentowin-living friends look down on our frustration with the homeless while their sense of woke superiority is untainted by human feces on a nearby sidewalk or nearly daily run-ins with the chronically disturbed during the warmer months makes me wanna kick them.
 
THIS.

We seem to forget about being competitive and working harder to make Edmonton attractive and retain more folks who are mobile and want:

1. great job offerings
2. an urban experience
3. a city that is interesting, exciting, vibrant
Unfortunately, it feels like there’s no middle ground when it comes to downtown, half the population are in denial saying downtown is wonderful and free of problems, and the other half won’t go near it with a 10 foot pole and slam it in social media any chance they can get.
 
The lived reality is nothing like that. Always keep in mind that online algorithms will direct you into the extremes.

I don't think many folks feel that our downtown is wonderful. And yet, demand for housing there is strong and people continue to go there for events, public institutions, work and nightlife. That's the middle ground that most everyone is inhabiting.
 
This better be a YYC problem and not ours…….

.https://www.linkedin.com/posts/erosbelotti_alberta-albertarealestate-calgaryrealestate-share-7454426160735727617-rTm6?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios&rcm=ACoAAAsQmgcBg5SYCFvQ7jF5m4WTngGyPMzfLl4
 
This better be a YYC problem and not ours…….

.https://www.linkedin.com/posts/erosbelotti_alberta-albertarealestate-calgaryrealestate-share-7454426160735727617-rTm6?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios&rcm=ACoAAAsQmgcBg5SYCFvQ7jF5m4WTngGyPMzfLl4
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An interesting article. We are not the best, but also no where near the worst and the city that is mentioned as being the worst is a bit surprising. Hint: it has very high prices.

Also stated and I feel somewhat obvious is that we have more potential for future price growth than most other cities.

 
The lived reality is nothing like that. Always keep in mind that online algorithms will direct you into the extremes.

I don't think many folks feel that our downtown is wonderful. And yet, demand for housing there is strong and people continue to go there for events, public institutions, work and nightlife. That's the middle ground that most everyone is inhabiting.
Yes, there is demand for housing downtown, but lets not kid ourselves compared to most other big cities it is not "strong".

We also do get good crowds downtown occasionally, like for major concerts, playoff hockey games or the Canada Day fireworks, but those days when there are throngs downtown are the exceptions. More commonly on a typical Saturday or Sunday it is fairly dead downtown. So again, lets not kid ourselves.

The fact we are not totally failing is not a reason to pat ourselves on the back too much. We need to do a lot more and have quite a way to go before we can say our downtown is really thriving.
 
Yes, there is demand for housing downtown, but lets not kid ourselves compared to most other big cities it is not "strong".

We also do get good crowds downtown occasionally, like for major concerts, playoff hockey games or the Canada Day fireworks, but those days when there are throngs downtown are the exceptions. More commonly on a typical Saturday or Sunday it is fairly dead downtown. So again, lets not kid ourselves.

The fact we are not totally failing is not a reason to pat ourselves on the back too much. We need to do a lot more and have quite a way to go before we can say our downtown is really thriving.

I think that's what I was expressing no?
 
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Hey YYC, do you like Apples?

 
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Hey YYC, do you like Apples?

It's almost as though price and aesthetics matter to buyers when outside of Toronto/Van.
 

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