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FrankRizza said:
I think that is exactly what is happening. If Edmonton has 8Mil passengers and Calgary has 17-18Mil. How many of Calgary’s passengers originate from Edmonton. I’d be willing to bet about 2-3Mil. I will never fly out of YYC because I feel Like I’m giving the finger to YEG but I know lots of people who do. My BIL and his family of 6 had booked a July flight to ATL. Now that it’s cancelled they are flying out of YYC, and worse yet, they are driving down to Calgary. So YYC will have 12 passenger numbers from this particular family in July and 0 for YEG. I honestly believe if nobody went to Calgary for flights, we would have 2-3 million more passengers and more flights because of it.

This city and our airport seem to take 2 steps forward and then 1.96 steps back, every fricken time. It’s like a punch in the gut every week.
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Even *if* hardly anyone Edmonton YEG connected in Calgary YYC still doesn’t (guarantee) YEG more flights than YYC . As it’s up to airlines which routes they operate ✅.
YYC gets connecting passengers from Saskatchewan, Manitoba, British Columbia, Northern Canada & 60,000-80,000+ US connecting passengers too.

YYC being closure to the Canada 🇨🇦/US🇺🇸 border compared to YEG , will always have an advantage over YEG on (US passenger traffic by air/ land) year round. Even for Asia / Europe YYC has some advantages too.
 
Blah blah blah. YYC Blah blah blah. Driving. Blah blah blah. Hubs Blah blah blah. Flatline for TWELVE F*CKING YEARS. None of this is new what is so special about the last 12 years. UCP handing out money to YYC to better connect Alberta? Why isn’t there a public outcry and media campaign and lobbying by the powers that be like there was over the arena fiasco? What are the board of directors doing in that regard? We have a mishmash of directors from every community in the area whereas YYC are predominantly from Calgarys chamber of commerce. No way the would let something like that go unchallenged. No leadership here what exactly are they doing?
Frustration from someone who volunteers countless hours for an organization that doesn’t seem to showing the required leadership.
 
Typical government favouritism.
Apparently they’d rather pump all the funds into one airport rather than try and facilitate growth at both.
Disappointing but let’s be real, these sorts of sneaky games with funding are commonplace amongst the UCP.
 
blue12 said:
Typical government favouritism.
Apparently they’d rather pump all the funds into one airport rather than try and facilitate growth at both.
Disappointing but let’s be real, these sorts of sneaky games with funding are commonplace amongst the UCP.
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So call them out like they did with the arena. The silence is deafening
 
Unfortunately for Edmonton, we are too close to the WS hub in YYC and they have so much feed from other cities connecting through there already that they can offer more routes/frequencies that YEG just can’t. Personally, for me, nothing beats getting off a flight and being in bed 45 minutes later, but I can see why people would drive down to Calgary if they can save a couple hundred bucks (multiple that by 3-4 if you have a family).

Same reason the Quebec City and Ottawa airports have such limited flights given similar population #’s to YEG. Their close proximity to AC’s Montreal hub means people will just drive to YUL for better route timings, frequencies that work better for their schedule or prices because of more competition.
 
Glenco said:
Didn’t work last time.
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The stop the Calgary habit got people talking about it. The majority of folks out there are completely clueless about the implications of their choices.
That 'stop the Calgary habit' campaign should always be running when there is a battle of Alberta in football and hockey.
 
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Markyeg said:
Unfortunately for Edmonton, we are too close to the WS hub in YYC and they have so much feed from other cities connecting through there already that they can offer more routes/frequencies that YEG just can’t. Personally, for me, nothing beats getting off a flight and being in bed 45 minutes later, but I can see why people would drive down to Calgary if they can save a couple hundred bucks (multiple that by 3-4 if you have a family).

Same reason the Quebec City and Ottawa airports have such limited flights given similar population #’s to YEG. Their close proximity to AC’s Montreal hub means people will just drive to YUL for better route timings, frequencies that work better for their schedule or prices because of more competition.
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Those conditions existed before 2014 what has changed since. $70 mil from the UCP to YYC to promote direct flights to Alberta. Last time I checked we are still a part of Alberta and pay taxes as well. Where is our share?
 
What if Edmonton tried to push for high speed rail to Fort Mac, Grand Prairie, Saskatoon, and Jasper. Make the region competitive and attractive and the flights will follow.
 
Markyeg said:
Unfortunately for Edmonton, we are too close to the WS hub in YYC and they have so much feed from other cities connecting through there already that they can offer more routes/frequencies that YEG just can’t. Personally, for me, nothing beats getting off a flight and being in bed 45 minutes later, but I can see why people would drive down to Calgary if they can save a couple hundred bucks (multiple that by 3-4 if you have a family).

Same reason the Quebec City and Ottawa airports have such limited flights given similar population #’s to YEG. Their close proximity to AC’s Montreal hub means people will just drive to YUL for better route timings, frequencies that work better for their schedule or prices because of more competition.
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I suppose Ottawa is comparable to Edmonton population wise, but Quebec City is much smaller and Montreal is still much larger than Calgary which is where I feel this example falls apart.

Ottawa also probably loses some flights due to Toronto which while further away than Montreal is even bigger. There is no city 3 to 4 times bigger than Edmonton in the same province or a couple hours away.
 
MattPT said:
What if Edmonton tried to push for high speed rail to Fort Mac, Grand Prairie, Saskatoon, and Jasper. Make the region competitive and attractive and the flights will follow.
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High speed rail can’t subsist on serving communities of 50,000 people 300-500km away. Heck I don’t think it’s even feasible between Calgary and Edmonton and it’s likely detrimental to EIA if it ever happens,
 
Its probably a bit too soon for high speed rail north yet, but Fort McMurray passed 50,000 many years ago as did Grande Prairie. Also Grande Prairie is a hub for a region of over 250,000 people now.

Lots of people come from both these areas to Edmonton regularly and it is a much longer drive than Edmonton to Calgary, so something a bit faster would probably be popular.
 
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