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Does any other airline fly a 737 Max 8 across the Atlantic ocean? Never heard of it. I guess since the GofA is paying WJ to fly their 787's from ONLY YYC - guess they have no choice if they want to serve any other city besides YYC.

Interestingly or oddly, all the related articles below that one are only about new services to or from Calgary.
 
Does any other airline fly a 737 Max 8 across the Atlantic ocean? Never heard of it. I guess since the GofA is paying WJ to fly their 787's from ONLY YYC - guess they have no choice if they want to serve any other city besides YYC.

Icelandair does - and YHZ - LGW is not much further than any of the 737 Max 8 services to Hawaii.
 
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^Initially it was supposed to be 6xweek for June. I wonder if this in response to Condor pulling out.
 
^Initially it was supposed to be 6xweek for June. I wonder if this in response to Condor pulling out.
Over on SSP - they're talking about perhaps Condor not pulling out - giggity - due to the reversal of the anti-trust decision - so we'll see
 
It could happen - but I'd still wait and see. People's "predictions" on forums such as SSP can often be pretty silly/random.
Regardless, 6x weekly KLM is great to see. Hopefully soon we can get daily, maybe for Summer '26.
 
Over on SSP - they're talking about perhaps Condor not pulling out - giggity - due to the reversal of the anti-trust decision - so we'll see
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https://www.aerotelegraph.com/eu-kom...antikgeschaeft

EU has withdrawn their order, for now:
Translated from German- "Brussels withdraws the interim injunction, which prohibited the German aviation company from dissolving the feeder contract with Condor. Nevertheless, Lufthansa is not off the hook. The EU Commission is further investigating the joint venture with United and Air Canada."
The full article translated below (nothing in the article mentions nor provides any reason for optimism the YEG flight will be reinstated).

"EU Commission exonerates Lufthansa in Condor case – but not in transatlantic business
New decision

Brussels is withdrawing the interim order that prohibited the German aviation group from terminating the feeder contract with Condor. Nevertheless, Lufthansa is not off the hook. The EU Commission is continuing to investigate the joint venture with United and Air Canada.

Lufthansa Boeing 787: Transatlantic cooperation is being investigated.

Lufthansa Group

The dispute between Condor and Lufthansa over feeder flights is like an exciting cup match between a Bundesliga team and a club from the 2nd Bundesliga. The fight is tough. And the referees have to intervene again and again - even with the VAR. One time the top-class team takes the lead, then the lower-class team surprisingly scores again. The final result is uncertain.

Condor recently scored again. In January, the EU Commission ordered the Lufthansa Group to reinstate the feeder agreement (officially: Special Prorate Agreement) for flights to and from Frankfurt, which had been terminated at Christmas. It feared that without it, the holiday airline would no longer be able to operate the Frankfurt-New York route on a sustainable basis. This threatened to cause "serious and irreparable damage to competition."

Condor is still seeking an out-of-court solution with Lufthansa

Now the EU Commission has withdrawn this order. "After further examination of all available evidence, the Commission has decided to discontinue its interim measures procedure," it announced on Thursday (27 February). Not all legal requirements for the measure had been met.

"We assume that the ongoing proceedings before the Federal Cartel Office and the European Commission will lead to positive decisions in the interests of competition and thus for consumers," commented a Condor spokesperson. Since these proceedings could drag on for a long time, however, the company is "continuing to have constructive discussions with Lufthansa in order to reach an out-of-court solution that is satisfactory for both sides."

EU Commission continues to fear restrictions on competition

"We welcome this decision by the EU Commission and see our legal opinion confirmed," says the Lufthansa Group. "Condor can continue to book Lufthansa Group flights on the basis of standard industry interlining."

For Lufthansa Group, however, it is only a small victory. The EU Commission is also pushing ahead with the investigation that has been ongoing since last August and which triggered the interim order in favor of Condor. It is also taking a close look at the transatlantic joint venture A++. This concerns the joint planning, pricing and marketing of flights by Lufthansa (as well as its sister companies Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines, Eurowings and Swiss), United Airlines and Air Canada between Europe and North America.

Compatibility with competition rules for transatlantic routes

This close cooperation could possibly violate competition law, according to the EU Commission. It is continuing to examine "the compatibility of the transatlantic joint venture A++ with the EU competition rules for transatlantic routes," it explains in a statement."
 
I really hope something comes of this, but I'm still skeptical. I don't imagine VS or BA being interested in Edmonton and WS doesn't have the aircraft available for it. AC is the best bet, possibly 3-4x weekly on the 787 (similar to the initial YOW-LHR).
 
I really hope something comes of this, but I'm still skeptical. I don't imagine VS or BA being interested in Edmonton and WS doesn't have the aircraft available for it. AC is the best bet, possibly 3-4x weekly on the 787 (similar to the initial YOW-LHR).
Ideally it would be a carrier with a connecting network out of YEG. That leaves only WS and as you say they are not interested
 
I really hope something comes of this, but I'm still skeptical. I don't imagine VS or BA being interested in Edmonton and WS doesn't have the aircraft available for it. AC is the best bet, possibly 3-4x weekly on the 787 (similar to the initial YOW-LHR).

Agree. BA British Airways has Not added much in Canada 🇨🇦 since they ended its Calgary YYC service end of (October 2019) except for increasing Vancouver YVR/Toronto YYZ - London LHR, UK 🇬🇧 flights ✈️during Spring / Summer seasons.

As for VS Virgin Atlantic, their *new* Toronto YYZ - LHR starting end of March 2025 should do ok with feed from WestJet & don’t think they will add service from Western Canada until they see how well the YYZ service does.

I don’t think AC Air Canada has plans to do Edmonton YEG- London LHR on Boeing 787.
Once AC gets deliveries of the *new* Airbus A321 XLR, YEG - LHR is a very good possibility✅ .
Plus Ottawa YOW - LHR service will most likely be moved from the 787 to A321 XLR planes operating that in the future.

As for WestJet currently no, as they don’t have enough Boeing 787’s.
 
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