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Do you guys think they will build an underground parking under this?
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EdmTrekker
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eCity will own the land ... could an underground parkade be a shared revenue source for the Oilers Group and eCity,
archited
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^^ No, definitely not. From a business perspective Mr. Katz is going to want to have "parking control" to maximize his ROI vis-a-vis parking accessibility. There will be new parking under the phase II development but not this city-owned property
EdmTrekker
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Why not if Katz builds a couple of floors? Katz could easily future proof the site design to provide for a mixed use tower if the agreement allows the City to sell the land back to Katz - the original Owner.
Tropical
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Does it need it?
Gronk!
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There's already enough parking within the downtown vicinity to populate a small city, so I highly doubt more underground parking is needed.
Greenspace
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I also doubt the 2200 stall under ICE District are full most of the time. The Village at ICE will take years to build, in the meantime has surface parking available still.
mcr
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Renderings from today of the Event Centre:
And a few of the surrounding area (Village @ Ice District):
Grabbed from Twitter. Certainly looks like there's a movable roof over the outdoor portion.
And a few of the surrounding area (Village @ Ice District):
Grabbed from Twitter. Certainly looks like there's a movable roof over the outdoor portion.
Greenspace
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If theres a couple rinks there covered for rec sports that’s a game changer for Downtown.
archited
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Not that these renderings are the end-all but I can see some very real aims as possibilities:
1. yes, it shows the roof over the flexible space as being pliable and able to be open or closed based on needs.
2. the event centre building seems like it is going to be a substantial piece of architecture (I wonder who is going to be tagged for this design effort).
3. the event centre building is going to be connected to the ICE annex building by a pedway. I wish the City would consider pedways as more than an A-to-B connector and allow for more width so that there could be other uses -- all manner of amenity kiosks, pop-up businesses, demonstration platforms and busker stations (having more businesses in expanded pedways would actually work to make them safer as a path of travel)
4. on the subject of pedways I hope the City in conjunction with Qualico will consider an expanded ^ pedway connection to the event centre from Qualico's mini-city development across 101st Street.
5. I hope that the flexible space portion of the development along 101st Street makes allowances for retail businesses and eateries/pubs that could then face 101 as well as inward to flex-space.
6. I also hope that portions of this space along 101and 104th Ave. could house public restrooms in lieu of port-a-potties (which have a tendency to become disgustingly gross in a short run of use).
7. As I had surmised the mid-rise across from the MacDonald Building shows two levels of Hospitality/Retail in the rendering (3rd rendering down from the top) -- is that not an ideal location for an A-listed restaurant?
8. While showing the entire Macdonald Building as residential, a little more imagination could have large portions of the ground floor removed so that there is a two-storey space including the "basement". This could then become a noted live-music nightclub space with art studios (rather than residences) on the floors above. Conjoined with a major restaurant across the street this corner could then become one of Edmonton's premier downtown go-to-spots.
9. the bottom rendering shows a "meh" park space -- in lieu, this could also become a major attraction space with better park functions.
10. since these are major interest spots in the rendering I still believe they will be the first to get developed along with the 42-storey tower adjacent to the ICE district plaza -- so a 42 storey tower, plus a 20+ storey tower adjacent to the ICE district annex, plus a mid rise as shown in rendering 3 plus the renovated MacDonald Building. I don't believe there will be subsurface parking for the event centre build-outs; that will come when the rest of Phase II is developed (I have a half-dozen good reasons for believing this).
What a boon for Edmonton!
1. yes, it shows the roof over the flexible space as being pliable and able to be open or closed based on needs.
2. the event centre building seems like it is going to be a substantial piece of architecture (I wonder who is going to be tagged for this design effort).
3. the event centre building is going to be connected to the ICE annex building by a pedway. I wish the City would consider pedways as more than an A-to-B connector and allow for more width so that there could be other uses -- all manner of amenity kiosks, pop-up businesses, demonstration platforms and busker stations (having more businesses in expanded pedways would actually work to make them safer as a path of travel)
4. on the subject of pedways I hope the City in conjunction with Qualico will consider an expanded ^ pedway connection to the event centre from Qualico's mini-city development across 101st Street.
5. I hope that the flexible space portion of the development along 101st Street makes allowances for retail businesses and eateries/pubs that could then face 101 as well as inward to flex-space.
6. I also hope that portions of this space along 101and 104th Ave. could house public restrooms in lieu of port-a-potties (which have a tendency to become disgustingly gross in a short run of use).
7. As I had surmised the mid-rise across from the MacDonald Building shows two levels of Hospitality/Retail in the rendering (3rd rendering down from the top) -- is that not an ideal location for an A-listed restaurant?
8. While showing the entire Macdonald Building as residential, a little more imagination could have large portions of the ground floor removed so that there is a two-storey space including the "basement". This could then become a noted live-music nightclub space with art studios (rather than residences) on the floors above. Conjoined with a major restaurant across the street this corner could then become one of Edmonton's premier downtown go-to-spots.
9. the bottom rendering shows a "meh" park space -- in lieu, this could also become a major attraction space with better park functions.
10. since these are major interest spots in the rendering I still believe they will be the first to get developed along with the 42-storey tower adjacent to the ICE district plaza -- so a 42 storey tower, plus a 20+ storey tower adjacent to the ICE district annex, plus a mid rise as shown in rendering 3 plus the renovated MacDonald Building. I don't believe there will be subsurface parking for the event centre build-outs; that will come when the rest of Phase II is developed (I have a half-dozen good reasons for believing this).
What a boon for Edmonton!
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Glenco
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MacLac
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Ahhhh.......now the truth comes out.....Smitty's contributions to both YYC and YEG arena areas is based on PERCENTAGE of overall costs for said projects. So the AB gov't can't go over 40%?
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Gronk!
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David A
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Wow, the often clever UCP communications people are stepping it in here. The first paragraph says similar, the second more, which is obviously contradictory.
The smarter approach would be to find some other projects in Edmonton to actually get to similar, maybe they are working on that quietly. I don't know.