Calfaer said:
It just made me think - I sort of vaguely recall an event sometime last decade where a man in City Center Mall was racially profiled in the old food court and asked to leave, despite not having done anything. Ever since, I feel like there was a swift reaction for security to basically never do anything remotely media worthy, which I think has made mall security ineffective for fear of retribution (for better or worse).
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I used to work in the mall, and remember the incident you speak of very well.

Your theory of the situation is interesting, but I wonder if it's just a perception rather than a truth. I still saw security deal with problematic individuals after that incident, including removing them from the mall.
 
I agree and don't feel they are that reluctant to deal with problems. But in addition to mall security, there are also actual police regularly in the mall walking around. I think it is the only place downtown I go that I actually ever see them.

I believe whatever problems there may have been there have diminished considerably, although given its closer proximity to certain areas downtown the environment is not the same as West Ed.
 
Funny that after I posted, I took a walk around the pedway system and mall, I saw more security guards than I'd seen in quite a while, including a couple that were actively escorting some folks off the property. Maybe they saw my post and upped their game. Or that I simply took better notice this time.
 
Yeah the mall has a decent chunk of security roaming the halls. Foot traffic seems to be decently busy too with office workers and students.

I also saw a furniture store opening up soon in the west side of the building as well? Does anybody have more details on that?
 
Walked through Calgary's CORE yesterday around lunch and was reminded about the importance of getting ECC back in business, revamped, repurposed etc. with actual shopping with multiple options for clothing, shoes, necessities and a few significant anchors.

There were thousands of people out and about in and around the mall on Stephen Ave and while there certainly were elements similar to Edmonton, it felt same, welcoming, vibrant and pretty clean I must say.

Over to you ECC.
 
Kosy123 said:
Yeah the mall has a decent chunk of security roaming the halls. Foot traffic seems to be decently busy too with office workers and students.

I also saw a furniture store opening up soon in the west side of the building as well? Does anybody have more details on that?
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A furniture store? I need more details, please. Who is it. which location, and will this be permanent or a seasonal pop-up shop?
 
IanO said:
Walked through Calgary's CORE yesterday around lunch and was reminded about the importance of getting ECC back in business, revamped, repurposed etc. with actual shopping with multiple options for clothing, shoes, necessities and a few significant anchors.

There were thousands of people out and about in and around the mall on Stephen Ave and while there certainly were elements similar to Edmonton, it felt same, welcoming, vibrant and pretty clean I must say.

Over to you ECC.
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There are several nice new businesses retail that have come to ECC over the last 6 months or so, and a furniture store I also noticed is coming soon. So I feel things are recovering.

Unfortunately, unlike Calgary we no longer have many of the larger anchor stores such the Bay or Holts, downtown. So the challenge is to fill the remaining bigger spaces in ECC with something new that will also draw more retail shoppers.

We don't have such a large collection of interesting older buildings suited for retail, like Calgary does on Stephen Ave, but 104 St is doing well and has more potential.
 
Gronk! said:
A furniture store? I need more details, please. Who is it. which location, and will this be permanent or a seasonal pop-up shop?
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I should've taken a picture but it's on the 2nd floor near the Manulife pedway.

It did also say gifts as well. Seems to be permanent too.
 
The little bit I have gathered leads me to believe it is an existing business relocating from elsewhere in the city.

The windows were covered when I went by recently so other than the name on the sign which also says coming soon, I can't say more about what it will look like or sell.
 
I probably said this before, outside of disorder/safety issues, much of people's perception of how Downtown is doing is related to this mall and remembering how it used to be. By all accounts Downtown in general is measurably better than it was 10-20 years ago by all account in terms of infrastructure, investment, resident population, street retail, transit, public spaces. However there's little destination retail in the mall and that's all I hear in terms of peoples take or perception on Downtown. Not sure how to fix that short term.
 
I still think Restoration Hardware would succeed in the old Holts space, with their signature cafe taking up the rooftop. It would create great street presence and bring back a major anchor for city centre.

This is just me dreaming; but having an Apple Store downtown facing the street would also be amazing. Apple sure knows how to get creative with their standalone stores in other cities so it would make quite a statement in our core.
 
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Are some of you on the same street drug many are? Man-o-man.

It's embarrassing and appalling where things are at from a retail and 'where do we explore at lunch' standpoint.

Maybe a few of you need to get of out dodge more often; 104st is fine, but not much to write home about.
 
A downtown Restoration Hardware store would be a license to print money. However, I'm content with a Home Hardware or a Crappy Tire. Downtown needs at least one hardware store to serve not just the residents but also the office workers and the post-secondary students. I for one am getting a bit tired of being forced to drive to places such as the Home Depot in Westmount Mall for my hardware needs.
 
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