David A
Senior Member
Yes, it could have attracted some interest and then led to momentum building. If the vessel is taking on water, you may need to do more than just bail it out.
Being cautious and conservative does not always work out.
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Offworld
Active Member
This had almost no effort or true strategy in it. You look at the shopping list of uses they proposed and it read like planning department pr0n. Throw everything at it including High Line steps. Honestly, there was no demand for what they were proposing, hence total failure. It threw hail Marys like hail and managed not to hit or land a single thing.View attachment 676827
A work in progress: City Centre Mall to undergo redevelopment project
As the downtown landscape changes, Edmonton’s City Centre Mall is adapting to new consumer trends and could be getting a facelift.www.ctvnews.ca
kcantor
Senior Member
Sometimes you include things in your zoning uses request that aren’t really in your immediate planning horizon. Some of them are simply a recognition that the zoning will exist for a very long time and you want to be able to respond to changing market demands without having to amend or change your zoning every time that happens. That’s why initially it looks like a shopping list even though your strategy is much more focused.
MacLac
Senior Member
New Mall GM……hopefully he has a few tricks up his sleeve……
Offworld
Active Member
^ Don't read too much into that GM position. They've been hired by the receiver. It's the GMs job to say no to any financial outlays unless there is a massive risk unless they take action. This is just pro forma receiver process, and I've seen it several times.
whattheheck
Active Member
The reality is, our downtown is in terrible shape. Some difficult choices are going to have to be made. It's dirty, the landscaping and trees and in rough shape. There are homeless everywhere. It smells, there's open drug use, access is severely constrained. Our 'face' to the world is for most a no-go zone.
And please stop the cheerleading. The first rule of fixing a problem is to acknowledge a problem exists. And it's worse now, compared to any time before.
I want our DT to thrive, but some tough love is needed to deal with the disorder. And this 'but the province' Sure, but the province does not give a damn about Edm. That's our reality; the hand that we've been played. The next council has to do something, grow a spine and stick to it. Otherwise, it will just get worse.
And please stop the cheerleading. The first rule of fixing a problem is to acknowledge a problem exists. And it's worse now, compared to any time before.
I want our DT to thrive, but some tough love is needed to deal with the disorder. And this 'but the province' Sure, but the province does not give a damn about Edm. That's our reality; the hand that we've been played. The next council has to do something, grow a spine and stick to it. Otherwise, it will just get worse.
David A
Senior Member
Its not perfect, but I don't feel catastrophizing is that accurate or helpful either. I am downtown almost every day, I see some some homeless people, but we are not over run by them, most are not causing problems or openly using drugs.
It does not smell here in most places. There are still some problem spots but in general it is fairly good during the day, things have improved a lot from a couple of years ago.
It does not smell here in most places. There are still some problem spots but in general it is fairly good during the day, things have improved a lot from a couple of years ago.
Gronk!
Senior Member
From City Centre to Data Centre - a bold proposal*
Edmonton is known for hockey, cold winters and a really big mall. One might argue that we have the really big mall - which was once the largest in the world - because of the cold winters and that our identity as a winter city fosters our love of hockey. It’s all connected.Recently one of our...
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The_Cat
Senior Member
Data centres use up a lot of energy. I think industrial areas might be better.
David A
Senior Member
Bad ideas never seem to really die, they just get reincarnated as something else.
MacLac
Senior Member
Save those for YYC - the term "Fintech" is synonymous with YYC since Neo and Infosys - both Chinese and Indian companies brought "call centers" BACK to Canada and more specifically YYC since their large number of unemployed TFW's and cheap as borscht real estate in their OLD BAY building for $5/sq/ft. and other cheap empty buildings. We'll just keep being the Health and AI Hubs for the province and they can keep their "Fintech" title all they want.
MacLac
Senior Member
I'm down with this.....Glubish - if you're reading this...make it happen...why not?
From City Centre to Data Centre - a bold proposal*
Edmonton is known for hockey, cold winters and a really big mall. One might argue that we have the really big mall - which was once the largest in the world - because of the cold winters and that our identity as a winter city fosters our love of hockey. It’s all connected.Recently one of our...
Offworld
Active Member
A data centre in the middle of a downtown? What are you people !?!?!?!?!?!? Why not the world's largest pickle-ball court, run by the city of course.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP trying to repurpose what was Eaton Centre. Every proposal is a joke, a mean joke too.
Honestly, pay me $750k a year and I'd move to Edmonton just to head up the demolition and exorcism of that site.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP trying to repurpose what was Eaton Centre. Every proposal is a joke, a mean joke too.
Honestly, pay me $750k a year and I'd move to Edmonton just to head up the demolition and exorcism of that site.
Gronk!
Senior Member
I should point out that the Edmonton City Data Centre article I posted is a joke by the author, hence the grin emoji in my post.
I profusely apologize for my shocking inclusion of a sense of humor on SRC.
I profusely apologize for my shocking inclusion of a sense of humor on SRC.
kcantor
Senior Member
This isn't a shopping centre, it's the latest of Bridge Studio's Sound Stages (Lake City):
The footprints could be readily provided within City Centre and the additional clear height could be readily created by removing the existing intermediate/second floors as required. The requirement for sound isolation between studios would provide lots of "width" as/where needed for any structural cross-bracing to replace the removed floors.
Doing this in the heart of downtown would provide lots of support in terms of hotels and restaurants and other services and in turn would support those uses.
With direct LRT connections, it would be easy to collaborate with the U of A, MacEwan and NAIT and would be an interesting add-on/tie-in to artists performing at Rogers Place that might want to record while they're here.
It's also something that would fit in well with the both the city and the province's desires to diversify and to encourage expansion for the film, television, and sound recording sectors.
The footprints could be readily provided within City Centre and the additional clear height could be readily created by removing the existing intermediate/second floors as required. The requirement for sound isolation between studios would provide lots of "width" as/where needed for any structural cross-bracing to replace the removed floors.
Doing this in the heart of downtown would provide lots of support in terms of hotels and restaurants and other services and in turn would support those uses.
With direct LRT connections, it would be easy to collaborate with the U of A, MacEwan and NAIT and would be an interesting add-on/tie-in to artists performing at Rogers Place that might want to record while they're here.
It's also something that would fit in well with the both the city and the province's desires to diversify and to encourage expansion for the film, television, and sound recording sectors.