The_Cat
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Revolver has their store opened by the escalators.
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Offworld
Active Member
Does anyone here know anything about the legal parcel makeup of CCW? I'm curious as to whether the hotel portion is a separate airspace legal parcel, and if it does comprise an airspace parcel, whether the hotel component has a freehold or leasehold interest?
David A
Senior Member
The Booster Juice nicely fills the one empty space here and the area is turning into a good collection of food and beverage places. Maybe the larger space just to the east can become something similar.
jnolsen
New Member
I don't know about specifics, but I can share that ECC staff has told me that the Delta is owned and operated separately from CCW. How this translates to the second and third floors (District 102 and the grand ballroom), I'm not sure. I believe the west parking garage is parcelled with the hotel as well.
Gronk!
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Gus Haynes
Active Member
I popped into Revolver the other day and spoke to the manager. He seemed extremely pleased with business in the new location. (Indeed, there were already more customers in the store than I ever saw in the Westmount location over several dozen visits over the years.) I'm happy the move is working out for them, and for the mall.
Kosy123
Senior Member
Oh hell yeah, that's great news. Hopefully the word spreads and other prospective retailers make the move if it's possible for them.
David A
Senior Member
Yes, it looked busier than expected when I went by on Friday after mid afternoon. There are still many people who live and work downtown.
Part of it is finding the right mix of retail and services to fill the spaces, so many of which were vacated during COVID.
This is no longer an upscale clothing mall like the suburban ones, but there is a nice mix of interesting new places that are slowly coming in to replace that.
archited
Senior Member
Has anyone experienced UNCEDED: Voices of the Land in ECC west? I hope that it is drawing crowds.
JNO1
Active Member
^ Unfortunately, it is not drawing crowds. Lots of interest that has not translated into attendees. Hopefully June picks up.
Greenspace
Senior Member
^Barrier to entry is the cost, which is about $30. Hopefully there are school groups/offices that are attending.
archited
Senior Member
^^ That's sad... goes back to my preaching that it has to have a lot of go-with support elements (eateries, art galleries, etc.) -- unfortunately my comments landed on deaf ears. For Doug and Idoia's sake I hope that they at least reach a break-even state. I know that a lot of effort has gone into this project involving a lot of people over a fair span of time.
cmd uw
Active Member
The Delta Hotel is a strata under separate ownership from ECC West.
kcantor
Senior Member
I attended following a Chamber function and could have sent more time than I did. The sound isolation between presentation areas could have been better but having said that it is a temporary exhibit that is still well worth seeing.
I also thought $25 for adults and $15 for youth (plus service fees) to be a little steep, particularly for many of those who you would want to attract. In hindsight it might even have made more sense to have offered “free admission” with a “suggested minimum donation” on exit rather than entry.
Offworld
Active Member
So here's my suggestion: As part of a more comprehensive agreement, the mall owner builds and sells a new hotel building to the strata owner elsewhere on the ECC West site, and in return also takes ownership of that strata unit to facilitate redevelopment of the rest of the ECC West lands. I realize that's a gross understatement in terms of the actual legal and financial framework, but unless the current owner takes ECC West by the horns and does something truly creative, they'll continue to own what's effectively become a millstone.
That strata lot otherwise just gets in the way of a fulsome, comprehensive redevelopment, and this would help modernize Edmonton's hotel stock.