innsertnamehere
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this whole area is booming with the 401 widening going out to Milton, West end Brampton is going to sprawl out like crazy in the next decade.
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salsa
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Sprawl is not just limited to residences. There is no such thing as an interesting mixed use community in Brampton, other than Main Street. Unlike real communities like Yonge & St Clair, it's either all cookie-cutter houses, sprawling business parks, or huge mega malls / big box stores. You need a car to travel between these single use areas.
Here, we're talking about a typical large, lowrise office building with tons of surface parking, being built at the edge of the GTA, in the middle of nowhere, next to farm land. Ironically, the press release said "Canon Canada’s future headquarters reflects the Company’s worldwide commitment to the environment and sustainability". Ya ok, we use rain water to flush the toilets, but how many employees will be taking transit to get here could probably be counted with one hand. If I got a job here, I'd spend about 4 hours a day commuting by transit. Oh, but you could always move right, which is what everyone says these days. Well, you couldn't even pay me to live in Brampton. I love Toronto, and I crave its vibrant street life, excellent transit, and huge variety of interesting neighbourhoods. Brampton has nothing to offer. I'd rather live in a bad area because at least my property taxes would support Toronto, instead of a dysfunctional government with a fat-cat entitled mayor and 90s style urban planning.
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TOareaFan
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I was responding to a post that said 15 minutes had been added to every employee's commute.......that is a ridiculously unfounded statement. Likewise....If, say, the majority of their employees currently live in Mississauga, Oakville and/or Brampton (which we can't know) then you may see a reduction in pollution all round......doubt if many were using transit to get to their current location.
TOareaFan
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Again, the post I responded to said nothing of "new" space in the last decade...it just said it would be nice to see corporate offices at MCC....and there are some.
ehlow
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Imagine the traffic!
innsertnamehere
Superstar
thats what the 401 widening is for 
Dan416
Senior Member
There are a lot of factors that go into a decision like this. The company I work for is currently looking for a new distribution centre, and 3 of the 4 top locations are further north/east in Brampton/Caledon, so they're farther from me, whereas 1 is closer to me (in Mississauga) and closer for some people, but further from others. They're certainly thinking about our commute times, but they've tried to keep the new office somewhere in the same general area (west end). Everyone's commute will be affected, but some will have to go further, others will be closer. Even if location was the only consideration, which it isn't, you can't please everyone!
modernizt
Senior Member
thats what the 401 widening is for
No, the 401 widening is to appease voters who naively think that adding lanes to highways is a long-term solution to gridlock.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
its a bit more complicated than that, but sure. The government really isn't making a bit deal of the fact that they have funding of it all the way to Milton if its to appease voters, its just some asterisk at the backside of a government document.
the widening probably has a whole lot more to due with ensuring access to markets remains somewhat competitive for shipping companies than it has to do with people from Brampton shaving 5 minutes off their commute. The widening has waited long enough, sections of the road are a at 12 lane levels of traffic while being squeezed into 6. The busiest stretch of this part of the 401 handles roughly 25% more traffic than the DVP and has the same capacity, and is a much more important economic artery. traffic is growing at roughly 3% annually on the stretch unlike the DVP as well, and doesn't really have any easy transit alternatives (though those are coming too). MTO doesn't go spend roughly $800 million over the period of a decade or so to widen 25km of highway without making sure its worth that investment.
the widening probably has a whole lot more to due with ensuring access to markets remains somewhat competitive for shipping companies than it has to do with people from Brampton shaving 5 minutes off their commute. The widening has waited long enough, sections of the road are a at 12 lane levels of traffic while being squeezed into 6. The busiest stretch of this part of the 401 handles roughly 25% more traffic than the DVP and has the same capacity, and is a much more important economic artery. traffic is growing at roughly 3% annually on the stretch unlike the DVP as well, and doesn't really have any easy transit alternatives (though those are coming too). MTO doesn't go spend roughly $800 million over the period of a decade or so to widen 25km of highway without making sure its worth that investment.
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