[micheal_can]

There is a running assumption here that the way to placate Tweed and similarly bypassed areas that the answer to their inconvenience is to provide them a station.

I wonder if we took the cost of adding a station and then asked the people of those localities if they wanted a station or something else for their trouble, whether they would answer "something else" like a new road or other facility.

Fully divide the rest of Highway 7? Tweed is most likely a very car centric place that adding buses would be pointless. So, if adding a regular slow speed passenger rail service is not going to happen, dividing highway 7 between Peterborough and Carletpn Place would likely please them.

Think like a small town resident and the answers are simple.

 

[nfitz]

Tweed to Peterborough?

It's 9 km from Tweed to Highway 7, from where a daily bus to both Toronto (via Peterborough) and Ottawa travels.

If you can't get an Uber up there, then there's a local bus service that runs from Madoc to Tweed and onto Belleville according to the town website - https://tweed.ca/photos/custom/Newsletter/March 2019 Newsletter.pdf

Anywhere else that Greyhound used to serve?

 

[Mihairokov]

It's 9 km from Tweed to Highway 7

It's also 30km to Belleville VIA, which is not a long distance in that part of the world.

 

[WB62]

It would be nice if Doug Ford could get behind Alto. Instead he is looking for further ways to destroy the environment and increase global warming. But that seems to be what Ontarians want, given his polling numbers.

I have a hard time believing the PC government wouldn’t support this when the time comes, especially if ALTO ends up sharing infrastructure with Metrolinx (who would benefit from upgraded infrastructure not fully on their dime).

Ford loves big infrastructure projects, and HSR service will make any land around stations extremely valuable.

The Ontario Minister of Transportation supports ALTO:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970520358718710215

 

[kEiThZ]

Because GO buses doesn’t need to operate at a profit,

Neither does local transit.

Tweed doesn’t need an HSR stop. But that doesn’t mean we abandon small communities altogether. If the cost of running a high speed rail through a community is connecting them a little more to other cities, is that something terrible?

1) Learn what scope creep is.

2) They are not owed anything other than making sure their town doesn't get bulldozed completely during the construction process. Their one MP doesn't even have much political sway.

3) They really should stop relying on the federal and provincial government to provide everything. They can pay for local transit too. Paying for a cube van shuttle isn't going to break the bank. And if they don't want to do that, I am fairly sure some local taxi operator will do that.

 

[Urban Sky]

The Ontario Minister of Transportation supports ALTO:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970520358718710215

I‘m not sure how anyone could be surprised by Ontario‘s government being supportive of ALTO, given that this project seems to proceed without (so far) asking Ontarian taxpayers for a single Dollar. Also, expect Doug Ford to swoop in once routing options gets published and inevitably become very controversial, to show everyone that he is driving a hard bargain against the federal government to ensure that this project protects for local and provincial interests…

 

[hw621]

I‘m not sure how anyone could be surprised by ontario‘s government being supportive of ALTO, given that this project seems to proceed without (so far) asking Ontarian taxpayers for a single Dollar. Also, expect Doug Ford to swoop in once routing options gets published and inevitably become very controversial, to show everyone that he is driving a hard bargain agaibst the federal government to ensure that this project protects for local and provincial interests…

or benefits his developer friends...

 

[dowlingm]

I‘m not sure how anyone could be surprised by Ontario‘s government being supportive of ALTO, given that this project seems to proceed without (so far) asking Ontarian taxpayers for a single Dollar. Also, expect Doug Ford to swoop in once routing options gets published and inevitably become very controversial, to show everyone that he is driving a hard bargain against the federal government to ensure that this project protects for local and provincial interests…

I am very pro-Ontario cooperating with HSR and interregional rail generally, but the messaging from the feds in respect of who owes whom what has to be carefully put and likely out of the public eye, given that to use Union even more than VIA's existing operations, they will need to take advantage of expensive provincial investments in platforms, track, signals and electrification.

 

[Urban Sky]

I am very pro-Ontario cooperating with HSR and interregional rail generally, but the messaging from the feds in respect of who owes whom what has to be carefully put and likely out of the public eye, given that to use Union even more than VIA's existing operations, they will need to take advantage of expensive provincial investments in platforms, track, signals and electrification.

Indeed, there is no shortage of provincial rail infrastructure projects where the federal government could chip in to unlock using them for ALTO…

 

[crs1026]

I am very pro-Ontario cooperating with HSR and interregional rail generally, but the messaging from the feds in respect of who owes whom what has to be carefully put and likely out of the public eye, given that to use Union even more than VIA's existing operations, they will need to take advantage of expensive provincial investments in platforms, track, signals and electrification.

I continue to be surprised that Ontario hasn't been more aggressive in demanding money for VIA's use of the GO Expansion infrastructure. But since we don't get to see the service agreement between ML and VIA, perhaps there are things we don't know.

- Paul