[CplKlinger]

To be honest, I thought they were going to just build standard 2 lane asphalt bike paths. Instead they went overboard on 132 Ave. with 2, 2 lane asphalt bike paths and extra wide sidewalks. If we did that everywhere with the 100 million budget we wouldn't go far. Seriously, who's idea was it to build 132 Ave this way? As a taxpayer I feel like I've been duped. I thought we were going to get bike paths throughout the city.

That's a different project with a different budget. 132 Ave is a neighbourhood renewal project. The active transportation acceleration project (the $100 million thing) does indeed consist largely of shared-use paths, but also includes some standard bike lanes, shared roadways, etc.

This memo breaks down the cost elements for 132 Ave's renewal. The cost of the bike lanes was actually offset by the savings from decreasing the road width. The budget is around $9 million higher than it would be if they did a "like for like" renewal, but this is because of the concrete for the wider sidewalks, raised crosswalks, landscaping, etc. The maintenance costs will be a little bit higher due to ploughing the bike lanes, maintaining the landscaping, etc., but the memo notes that this is offset by the estimated $3-4 million in lifecycle savings because the amount of asphalt that needs to be microsurfaced, repaved, etc. every 10-20 years will be reduced by 40%.

 

[ntt1]

I wonder if there was a big turnover on council if that could possibly even happen.

Would Cartmell and his team? Principe would maybe make a motion.

@jason403 you should ask the mayoralty candidates Cartmell and Jaffer in particular if they would go that far?

Certainly Knack and Walters would be against.

Some PACE candidates probably would be in favour.

I'll never forget that this shit show was in Walters' ward back in 2015, so I'm not so sure. Though removing 132 Ave would be magnitudes more expensive.

Demolition of contentious Edmonton bike lanes underway - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca

The removal of some much-debated bike lanes in south Edmonton started Tuesday morning.

globalnews.ca

 

[The_Cat]

Probably the biggest complainers are those who can’t race their cars on 132 Avenue.

 

[dkazzed]

We could elect a very conservative municipal government and not find more than 1 or 2 council members willing to spend millions ripping up 132 Ave at this point. I just worry they will block the 82 to 97 St section.

The usage numbers are in line with what we would expect for a 1/3rd completed project.

 

[thommyjo]

That's a different project with a different budget. 132 Ave is a neighbourhood renewal project. The active transportation acceleration project (the $100 million thing) does indeed consist largely of shared-use paths, but also includes some standard bike lanes, shared roadways, etc.

This memo breaks down the cost elements for 132 Ave's renewal. The cost of the bike lanes was actually offset by the savings from decreasing the road width. The budget is around $9 million higher than it would be if they did a "like for like" renewal, but this is because of the concrete for the wider sidewalks, raised crosswalks, landscaping, etc. The maintenance costs will be a little bit higher due to ploughing the bike lanes, maintaining the landscaping, etc., but the memo notes that this is offset by the estimated $3-4 million in lifecycle savings because the amount of asphalt that needs to be microsurfaced, repaved, etc. every 10-20 years will be reduced by 40%.

This is a slam dunk memo for those trying to suggest the 132 renewal is fiscally unwise/stupid/wasteful.

 

[TAS]

I'll never forget that this shit show was in Walters' ward back in 2015, so I'm not so sure. Though removing 132 Ave would be magnitudes more expensive.

Demolition of contentious Edmonton bike lanes underway - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca

The removal of some much-debated bike lanes in south Edmonton started Tuesday morning.

globalnews.ca

I think all of council was on board with removing those lanes which weren't planned well. At the mayor's forum on Sunday, Knack talked about how he voted to remove the painted lanes on 95Ave, too, referenced in the story you linked.

Sorry, on my phone I can't clip the portion of video that the 2025 mayoralty candidates speak to their position on bike lanes - but if you want to know how they stand, here it is. Just go to 1:26.00 for the bike lane question and answer. They each get 60 seconds to respond.

 

[jason403]

Just wait until school begins and traffic is backed up due to busses and traffic constantly stopping due to 1 lane of traffic each way.

All that while bike lanes are sparsely used, especially during winter months and days that don't have ideal weather.

Some sort of multi use paths would have been ideal if space was available, but taking away 2 lanes of traffic was a giant case of overlooking an efficient use of the transportation network in place.

 

[ededed]

Just wait until school begins and traffic is backed up due to busses and traffic constantly stopping due to 1 lane of traffic each way.

All that while bike lanes are sparsely used, especially during winter months and days that don't have ideal weather.

Some sort of multi use paths would have been ideal if space was available, but taking away 2 lanes of traffic was a giant case of overlooking an efficient use of the transportation network in place.

The road is meant to be a collector road, not an arterial road. The new design reflects that.
People expecting to use it as an arterial road will probably become frustrated and redirect themselves to the nearby arterial roads.
A quick look at google maps shows that there is easy access to nearby arterial roads.

 

[jason403]

I wouldnt say the road is used as an arterial road. Most people would use 137ave and yellowhead trail for arterial purposes. I'd be referring to local access as it's generally used for. I don't think many people are using this road for long trips due to school zones.

 

[CplKlinger]

Just wait until school begins and traffic is backed up due to busses and traffic constantly stopping due to 1 lane of traffic each way.

All that while bike lanes are sparsely used, especially during winter months and days that don't have ideal weather.

Some sort of multi use paths would have been ideal if space was available, but taking away 2 lanes of traffic was a giant case of overlooking an efficient use of the transportation network in place.

132 Ave was overbuilt for a collector road; accordingly, traffic volumes never even came close to reaching its capacity. Besides, there are other roads nearby (ie 137 Ave) that can more than accomodate the traffic that wants to zoom. In just five years, there were hundreds of collisions along this stretch of 132 Ave, and many speeders caught too. In some segments, more than 80% of drivers were caught speeding during speed studies. Why should our priority for a road going through a dozen schools zones be to save drivers time, instead of keeping children and their parents alive and safe?

My source is this document—pages 80-85.

 

[itom987]

Over built but under zoned as well.

 

[ntt1]

I think all of council was on board with removing those lanes which weren't planned well. At the mayor's forum on Sunday, Knack talked about how he voted to remove the painted lanes on 95Ave, too, referenced in the story you linked.

Sorry, on my phone I can't clip the portion of video that the 2025 mayoralty candidates speak to their position on bike lanes - but if you want to know how they stand, here it is. Just go to 1:26.00 for the bike lane question and answer. They each get 60 seconds to respond.

I hate to derail, but the result of that was a pretty gaping hole in between some painted infrastructure that

 

[trevorhayden]

Over built but under zoned as well.

Time to up zone!

 

[ntt1]

I hate to derail, but the result of that was a pretty gaping hole in between some painted infrastructure that

Looks like this got cut off mid-thought, haha. Anyways, I don't really want to derail this thread further but the removal of those 40 Ave/106 bike lanes left a gaping hole between 106 Street south of 34 Ave and north of the Whitemud. These painted lanes are admittedly horrible and unsafe, but the areas which the lanes were removed (40 Ave) seem overbuilt as collector streets, similar to 132 Ave. Arguably, they were no more unsafe than the other painted lanes that have remained. Hopefully they'll be revisited at some point.

This document is a bit older, but there are some examples here of different configurations of collector roads seen across the city: https://pub-edmonton.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=8882

The average measured speeds in relation to the road width are quite telling.

 

[CplKlinger]

Construction Update - September 2025​

The third year of 132 Ave Renewal West construction is underway! Work will consist of reconstruction and paving of the roads, removal and replacement of public sidewalk, curb, gutter and street lighting.

132 Avenue between 113 A Street and 121 Street remains closed as construction is ongoing.

The project team may be able to open a section between 121 Street and 118 Street in late September, weather permitting.

This year, the majority of construction will take place from 113 A Street to 121 Street. Please view this scope map to see the 2025 construction area. Work will also happen in the commercial area along 113 A Street.

Construction Update - September 2025​

The second year of 132 Avenue Renewal East is underway. Work will consist of reconstruction and paving of the roads, removal and replacement of public sidewalk, curb, gutter and street lighting.

132 Avenue between 66 Street and 72 Street has reopened to the public. 132 Avenue remains closed and construction is ongoing between 66 Street and Delwood Road.

2025 construction will impact access around St. Vladimir School and Daycare. Construction impacts and detours can be found here.

This year, the majority of construction will take place from 66 street to 82 street. Please view this scope map to see the 2025 construction area. Work will also happen in the commercial areas along 72 Street and 82 Street.