[CalgaryTiger]

I have my popcorn ready to see the objection from Upper Mount Royal residents across 14st.

I want to be there as Bob and some Upper Mount Royal resident compare individual legacy and what they have done to make the city better. Hard to beat Bob in that category. Does that mean he should be given license to build this, even if it causes a shadow? We'll see.

 

[Chowda7]

Canada and Alberta invest $203 million for affordable housing

/CNW/ - Solving Canada's housing crisis requires immediate action to bring down costs. To provide Canadians with increased access to affordable and sustainable...

www.newswire.ca

 

[CalgaryTiger]

Canada and Alberta invest $203 million for affordable housing

/CNW/ - Solving Canada's housing crisis requires immediate action to bring down costs. To provide Canadians with increased access to affordable and sustainable...

www.newswire.ca

• Calgary
  • $28.6 million for Calhome Properties to build mixed-income affordable housing.
  • $30.5 million for Onward Homes Society to build three affordable housing projects.
  • $13 million for 800 GP Corporation to convert a vacant office tower into affordable housing.
  • $22 million for Calgary Heritage Housing to build three buildings for seniors self-contained units.
  • $3.5 million for Attainable Homes Calgary to build mixed-use, mixed-income affordable housing.
  • $7.54 million for Liberty Housing Organization to build mixed-use affordable housing.
  • $3.08 million for Victory Outreach Foundation to convert a hotel to affordable housing.
  • $6.2 million for Homespace Society to build affordable housing.
  • $2.7 million for the City of Calgary to build mixed-income, mixed-use affordable housing.

A conversion in here, interesting. On top of the city's incentive?

Also, the Canmore school division is in affordable housing?

• $2.5 million for Canadian Rockies School Division to build affordable housing in Canmore.

 

[lemongrab]

Calgary to postpone Stephen Avenue construction while new timeline is developed

Due credit for putting the brakes on...as a random Joe Blow I certainly don't have the impression that they have truly learned enough and implemented changes from the 17th and Marda Loop sagas. Or maybe they have. But I don't think I'd even heard about this project [being funded and imminent] until a few weeks ago on here.

edit: the other big question I have is whether this is all planned with the eventual 8 ave subway in mind. I would certainly hope so, but not sure the city has earned the benefit of the doubt on these projects

 

[outoftheice]

Here's the rendering for the block in question. I'm not really blown away by what they are proposing but I also think the businesses along the street wanting to preserve automobile access is an outdated way of thinking and takes away from the street instead of adding to it. I do agree with their view that 3 months per block instead of 15 months is worth the extra money for such an important street.

Full project website here:

Stephen Avenue

www.calgary.ca

 

[trtcttc]

Also, the Canmore school division is in affordable housing?

• $2.5 million for Canadian Rockies School Division to build affordable housing in Canmore.

It's an affordable housing proposal on school lands with units reserved for staff. Great idea and probably needed in places that Canmore that have a large influx of out of town buyers.

Development plan on Canmore school land continues forward

Canadian Rockies Public Schools received a grant from the provincial government of up to $2.5 million for its ongoing work with the Lawrence Grassi Middle School area redevelopment plan.

www.rmoutlook.com

 

[DougB]

Does the Stephen Ave redesign consider a future subway? If utility work is planned, it should relocate utilities to areas thst would be unaffected by a future cut and cover tunnel

 

[CBBarnett]

Does the Stephen Ave redesign consider a future subway? If utility work is planned, it should relocate utilities to areas thst would be unaffected by a future cut and cover tunnel

I think the subway is on the 30 year+ plan, so perhaps they do what they can now but acknowledge that it's probably the next lifecycle of Stephen Ave that will warrant more serious consideration of a subway. I wish it was sooner - I want the LRT to convert more and more to a grade-separated light-metro style system, rather than the way it's going with more at-grade crossings added slowing things down. Calgary at 2.5 million is going to need the Red Line to do a lot more than it currently can (as impressive as the capacity is at-grade today).

Back to Stephen Ave upgrades - I think what's often forgotten here is the project is really is mostly utility work in cost and time. It's truly an iceberg where 90% is below the surface - all the cost, delays and risks are beneath the ground. It all compounds, because not only do you have to dig deep, you have to keep access open and keep everything safe - safety fencing, supports, openings, closures. Digging underground will inevitably hit something unforeseen, delaying things further. It's so much harder than just the surface treatment.

If they didn't need to upgrade any pipes, they could probably complete just the surface job in a month or two. That's just scraping off the top layer and putting in some new pavers and light poles. You'd hardly need any fencing or closures beyond some temporary stuff for accessibility - there's no big excavations to fall in.

 

[cameronhowe]

Here's the rendering for the block in question. I'm not really blown away by what they are proposing but I also think the businesses along the street wanting to preserve automobile access is an outdated way of thinking and takes away from the street instead of adding to it. I do agree with their view that 3 months per block instead of 15 months is worth the extra money for such an important street.

Full project website here:

Stephen Avenue

www.calgary.ca

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I agree, I don't find the renderings of what they're proposing to be all that groundbreaking tbh but it's an improvement from what exists there today. I hope that they don't cave and allow for the car access as I think this should be one of the few pedestrian-only streets in the city. I also agree that these improvements shouldn't take 15 months and that the 3-month approach would be ideal. My only comment to that is they don't want 24/7construction but yet want the project expedited as fast a possible. Those two ideas are a bit conflicting.

 

[darwink]

Here's the rendering for the block in question. I'm not really blown away by what they are proposing but I also think the businesses along the street wanting to preserve automobile access is an outdated way of thinking and takes away from the street instead of adding to it. I do agree with their view that 3 months per block instead of 15 months is worth the extra money for such an important street.

Full project website here:

Stephen Avenue

www.calgary.ca

There is real debate. The illusion of parking likely led to the sustainability of 8th as a pedestrian mall while others failed across north america.

 

[lemongrab]

I agree, I don't find the renderings of what they're proposing to be all that groundbreaking tbh but it's an improvement from what exists there today. I hope that they don't cave and allow for the car access as I think this should be one of the few pedestrian-only streets in the city. I also agree that these improvements shouldn't take 15 months and that the 3-month approach would be ideal. My only comment to that is they don't want 24/7construction but yet want the project expedited as fast a possible. Those two ideas are a bit conflicting.

They do want 24/7:

He said they hope to get across to the City that 15 months spent on one block isn’t reasonable. They want that cut down to three months per block. They would also like to see a flex street instead of the proposed high street. They’d also like to see 24/7 construction to limit the length of time it will impact local businesses.

 

[YYCALGARY]

Oh great. Grey brick and modern style lampposts. The thing that makes Stephan Ave so identifiable is the sandstone, warm paving stones and historical (looking) furniture. We really should not be cleansing this space by making it look like any corporate or private mall plaza. Gives outlet vibes. No bueno. Was consultation just not done at all? Why would they take all the texture and grandiose out of the street?

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[The Familia]

This should 100% be modelled off a European street and look more historical to match the surrounding buildings.

 

[FCC1982]

Oh great. Grey brick and modern style lampposts. The thing that makes Stephan Ave so identifiable is the sandstone, warm paving stones and historical (looking) furniture. We really should not be cleansing this space by making it look like any corporate or private mall plaza. Gives outlet vibes. No bueno. Was consultation just not done at all? Why would they take all the texture and grandiose out of the street?

Exactly - seems like a no-brainer but I guess not.

 

[darwink]

Was consultation just not done at all?

Years of it by my memory.