[nightstreak]

This image is representative of what should not be happening during a waterfront redevelopment. The Public park is set behind a private development on the water. Yes, the water's edge — all 10 metres of it — is public but people have to go around. That view to the water under the bridge is kind of insulting, considering the pedestrian path is blocked by a private enclosed passageway.

Photo: @mburrrrr

Waterfront Toronto has been able to mostly avoid this over the last 20 years but missed on this one which is hopefully fixable in the future if the sugar refinery gets redeveloped. The location of the smoke stack could be a passageway to the water from the park.

 

[DSCToronto]

This image is representative of what should not be happening during a waterfront redevelopment. The Public park is set behind a private development on the water. Yes, the water's edge — all 10 metres of it — is public but people have to go around. That view to the water under the bridge is kind of insulting, considering the pedestrian path is blocked by a private enclosed passageway.

Photo: @mburrrrr

Waterfront Toronto has been able to mostly avoid this over the last 20 years but missed on this one which is hopefully fixable in the future if the sugar refinery gets redeveloped. The location of the smoke stack could be a passageway to the water from the park.

The Redpath has been there LONG before this became a 'neighbourhood' and long before Waterfront Toronto existed - you cannot blame them for "missing this". It is really the final vestige of a 'maritime past' all along Queen's Quay. As has been discussed here (often), Redpath provides good jobs for people near to their homes. They also get most of their raw material, by boat so having it here reduces truck traffic. (In the not too distant past until ca 2010) they also received and dispatched 'product' by rail as the site had fairly active rail spur.

Yes, it would obviously not be located here today and IF they ever move I assume the waterfront promenade would continue and there would be a link to it from Queen's Quay. I also fail to see why "That view to the water under the bridge is kind of insulting,"

 

[nightstreak]

The Redpath has been there LONG before this became a 'neighbourhood' and long before Waterfront Toronto existed - you cannot blame them for "missing this".

DSC, you should probably go read the post you're commenting on a little more carefully. I was clearly referring to the condo across the street from the park. Pier 27 should not have been allowed to close off the path towards the water. Sure they did their best to keep the view corridor open with the bridge but at ground level, the path is blocked with an enclosed tunnel and gates. The central path that was left open is made to feel private. Nearby signs saying private property feel intentional. It does not feel like a public throughway.

When I referred to the sugar refinery it was as an eventual solution should it ever get redeveloped. I happen to like the mix use of the area, including industrial. It's something unique about our waterfront, seeing industrial activity across from a beach.

 

[DSCToronto]

DSC, you should probably go read the post you're commenting on a little more carefully. I was clearly referring to the condo across the street from the park. Pier 27 should not have been allowed to close off the path towards the water. Sure they did their best to keep the view corridor open with the bridge but at ground level, the path is blocked with an enclosed tunnel and gates. The central path that was left open is made to feel private. Nearby signs saying private property feel intentional. It does not feel like a public throughway.

When I referred to the sugar refinery it was as an eventual solution should it ever get redeveloped. I happen to like the mix use of the area, including industrial. It's something unique about our waterfront, seeing industrial activity across from a beach.

Ok. I misread your complaint about the condo. Though I see your point, the bridges do provide an unusual visual interest and the walkway is accessible, and, of course, the quay can be reached from the Yonge St Slip. My main complaint about the area is that the damned surface car park is still there. I hope the supposedly upcoming work on QQE and the changes to the Slip will see it become the “destination space “ we have been promised.